Hi Aitor, On Thu, Dec 24, 2020, aitor wrote: > Hi Joel, > > On 24/12/20 7:40, Joel Roth wrote: > > Thanks for looking into this! I, for one, don't need > > to run KDE or Gnome. > > I've been working on vdev during these days, and i'm thinking on a possible > new approach for it. For instance: > > 1) We should consider whether or not a separate ABI (libudev-compat) is > required since the apparition > of libeudev1 (libudev1 without systemd), or leave instead this other library > (compatible with libeudev1, or > better said, depending on it) for new features added by Jude Nelson and > contributors (say the whole libudev-fs.c > or some add-ons like "udev_monitor *udev_monitor_new_from_filesystem" in > libudev-monitor.c, non existent > in libeudev1) > > 2) We should also consider the inclusion of a hardware database management > tool, call udevadm, vdevadm or > whatever you want. I propose this addition due to the slow boot of the > system caused by the lack of this tool, > i guess. In the case of eudev, the hardware database is compiled into a > binary and only the binary is used at > runtime. I should however add that yesterday I handled vdev with runit and > the boot process was very quick, > but there is a drawback here: you need to wait for the hardware to be > detected. In a console session I needed > to wait for the detection of wlan0 (even eth0 was detected inmediately); in > a X session I couldn't login because > neither the mouse nor the keyboard didn't respond.
While I don't understand your post completely, I agree with your point that udev-compat need not be a high priority as libeudev meets this need. I understand that without udev-compat, vdev wouldn't be able to serve some heavyweight desktop environments. I think that's okay, because Probably most potential users of vdev will be using a lightweight window manager or even just console. I think serving that group will be a good place to start. Also, while a database for fast startup would be great, enabling it to work at all would be a good first step. Eventually some sort of write-up about vdev comparing it to mdev, udev, eudev might help getting the word out. (I'd help with that.) Thanks for all your work! Joel > Cheers, > > Aitor. > > > -- Joel Roth _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
