On Sat, 2020-05-23 at 19:54 +0100, Jim Jackson wrote: > Generally, why does apparmor get installed on a dist-upgrade, when > it > wasn't there initially? It isn't as if it's a new "thing".
That's a good question. > I got it > on my ascii -> beowulf upgrade, and removed it. That was the first thing I did, after looking at the logs, to determine if apparmor was the problem, after monkeying around with permissions to no avail. Then I looked up the apparmor message and came up with the bug (and familiarized myself with apparmor since this was the first time it's gotten in my way). It *seems* like a good security tool, but I certainly don't know enough yet to make a determination. n this case I decided to trust the devuan architects/devs that it was a good security enhancement I reinstalled it and tried the workaround mentioned in the bug report. I'm sure I should look into it deeper though, I'm sure I will. > Why is it the shiny-blingy stuff is so crap? I use xfce for simplicity sake with the same idea. The shinier and better polished, the more likely to be buggy and/or entail a much larger attack surface. I'm sure it gets simpler/more secure than xfce but I'm still learning :) and that reminds me of a discussion on this list not too long ago about desktops. > Any recommendations for a better panel? If you weren't on the list about 6 months ago, there was some wonderfully enlightening discussion about de's and wm's that long ago or more. I can find the exact dates if you want so you can find it in the archives. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng