I think I see what you're saying, that the intel and amd programs weren't necessarily part of firmware-linux-nonfree or the other, but that that they just got caught in my command because they have nonfree in their filenames.
The only thing I know for sure is that I didn't install any of them manually. On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:39 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > It seems like it did that, tried to remove a number of packages that > aren't installed, but also found those intel and amd programs, and > removed those. Seems to have accomplished exactly what I needed... > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 18:36 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 02:34:34PM -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree. > > > > It looks as if this command removed, or tried to remove, all > > packages > > whose name > > ended in "nonfree". > > > > But wouldn't it look for files whose names ended in "nonfree" and > > try > > to remove > > packages that have the same name as those files? > > > > -- hendrik > > > > > On both machines it looks pretty much identical. On both > > > machines, > > > it > > > mentions the following: > > > > > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no > > > longer > > > required: > > > amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool > > > > > > > > > This makes me think they were the programs that needed it. > > > Unfortunately I'm not ME free, and I don't trust intel (or amd) > > > so > > > I > > > worry that this nonfree software already did it's dirty work to > > > enable > > > intel or amd spying. > > > > > > aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree > > > W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall, > > > but > > > the > > > file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not > > > available > > > Manually installed, current version 20161130-3, priority optional > > > No dependencies require to install firmware-linux-nonfree > > > root@dooby1:/# aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree > > > W: Package firmware-misc-nonfree had been marked to reinstall, > > > but > > > the > > > file for the current installed version 20161130-3 is not > > > available > > > i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (= > > > 20161130-3) > > > root@dooby1:/# vi /etc/apt/sources.list > > > root@dooby1:/# history|grep nonfree > > > 496 apt list firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 497 history|grep firmeware-misc-nonfree > > > 498 apt show firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 499 apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 510 apt-cache policy firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 511 aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 512 aptitude reinstall firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 515 apt show firmware-linux-nonfree > > > 516 aptitude why firmware-linux-nonfree > > > 517 aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 519 history|grep nonfree > > > root@dooby1:/# apt remove *nonfree > > > Reading package lists... Done > > > Building dependency tree > > > Reading state information... Done > > > Note, selecting 'predictprotein-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'context-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'netpbm-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'context-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'flashplugin-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'unace-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'firmware-linux-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'unrar-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'filters-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Note, selecting 'firmware-misc-nonfree' for glob '*nonfree' > > > Package 'context-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'context-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'filters-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'texinfo-doc-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'netpbm-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'unace-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'predictprotein-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > Package 'unrar-nonfree' is not installed, so not removed > > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no > > > longer > > > required: > > > amd64-microcode intel-microcode iucode-tool > > > Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them. > > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > > > firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree > > > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 34 not upgraded. > > > After this operation, 8,174 kB disk space will be freed. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:28 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > Actually, when you run the ascii live installer, both of those > > > > programs > > > > are present. > > > > > > > > Should that be the case? I thought devuan include nothing > > > > nonfree > > > > by > > > > default...I have to make it part of my routine to remove them > > > > then > > > > from > > > > every devuan install. > > > > That's a surprising find..... :( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:21 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > > I just checked another machine that is still running ascii, > > > > > on > > > > > which > > > > > I > > > > > would never have installed anything nonfree, or via wget or > > > > > dpkg, > > > > > and > > > > > yet both firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-misc-nonfree are > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to try a fresh install of ascii and see if they're > > > > > there. > > > > > I > > > > > suspect they won't be, which will mean one of the few > > > > > programs > > > > > I > > > > > run > > > > > on > > > > > that machine would be at fault, so that should make it easier > > > > > to > > > > > narrow > > > > > down. This is pretty odd though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:00 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > > > Well I'll just remove the damn things and see if nothing > > > > > > blows up > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:55 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry if we're getting off track here but I honestly > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > recall > > > > > > > > installing anything nonfree on this machine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We may never get to the bottom of this mystery :) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Dng mailing list > > > > > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > > > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Dng mailing list > > > > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Dng mailing list > > > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Dng mailing list > > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > _______________________________________________ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
