On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 06:25:02PM +0000, NCW RC via Dng wrote: > I hope I did this maillist reply correctly. I am doing it with webmail, not > an email client. > > > libpam-systemd depends systemd-sysv. libpam-systemd also depends > > systemd. Devuan's libpam-elogind provides libpam-systemd but conflicts with > > systemd which must be removed first. > > > > However, to get systemd uninstalled we first have to replace systemd-sysv > > with > > sysvinit-core (leaving systemd installed) and reboot. systemd and elogind > > conflict so we cannot use libpam-elogind to replace libpam-systemd *yet*. > > > > This is the point we need a transitional package to temporarily satisfy > > libpam-systemd's systemd-sysv dependency whilst the system is rebooted.
It it there yet? If not, could you let us know when it arrives? I could delay my test upgrade in case it might test whether these changes work properly. > > > > After reboot, systemd is no longer PID1 so can be removed and we can then > > complete the transition replacing libpam-systemd with libpam-elogind, > > removing > > systemd and installing elogind. > > > > I hope that is clearer. > > > > I can get the general grasp of this information as I think a similar shim was > used in devuan when it was first forked. > > What I found to get sysvinit-core installed was to > -boot into the debian install, and before changing the sources list to point > to devuan, > -run "apt install sysvinit-core" > > then, alter the sources.list to point to beowulf and, > "apt update" > "apt upgrade" > "reboot" > > No errors were noted and upon a reboot, sysvinit is running as PID1 and the > migration can continue in a manner similar to what it has been in the past. > > Trying to install sysvinit-core after the sources.list pointed to beowulf > caused many problems and I never could get it done that way. > > I documented my test migration of a buster Xfce install at: > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p1771<https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p17716>6<https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p17716> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng