On Tue, 28 May 2019 19:14:25 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org): > > > Sorry Rick... I missed that. > > No worries (as our Australian friends say). > > > I am absolutely astounded by the number of time I've seen *IX > > "admins" at fortune X companies copy a tree to a windows share and > > wonder why it's broken when they try to restore from it. NFS, if not > > done correctly, can do that same thing too. So... > > Reminds me of something I forgot to mention earlier. Most Linux folks > have heard of the stat(2) system call, but did you know there's also > an informative stat(1) system _utility_? Play with it on diverse > sorts of file/directory targets, and see how informative it is. It > shows in human-readable form _all_ metadata available about any > filesystem object. > > Around 2001 when I was writing an article for _Linux Journal_ about > then-new USB flash drives called 'Floppies for the New Millennium', it > belatedly occurred to me to wonder how the vfat filesystem (typically > used on flash drives) dealt with storage of native *ix's three time > stamps (ctime, mtime, atime) on a filesystem (vfat) incapable of > storing more than a single time stamp. The answer is logical: All > three get instantiated by overloading the single DOS time stamp, > which thus gets rewritten every time any of them must be updated. > And, point is, one can observe this kludge at work > using /usr/bin/stat. > > Anyway, to second what you said: Any storage target that's not > Linux-native, and NTFS is case in point, is going to unavoidably > introduce some degree of silent metadata loss (absent encapsulation, > such as in a tarball), so beware. > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng huh, interesting. I've always just used ext2 on my floppies. still do. -- _______________________________________ / The onset and the waning of love make \ | themselves felt in the uneasiness | | experienced at being alone together. | | | \ -- Jean de la Bruyere / --------------------------------------- \ \ /\ /\ //\\_//\\ ____ \_ _/ / / / * * \ /^^^] \_\O/_/ [ ] / \_ [ / \ \_ / / [ [ / \/ _/ _[ [ \ /_/ _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng