Le 14/03/2019 à 09:48, Rick Moen a écrit :
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
I just wonder whether your nice solution is enough for a wider
audience used to have things popping up around all the time. I guess
it's not, as much as setnet is not a solution to manage networks
palatable to a wider audience, as much as apt-get is not the tool used
by the large majority of users to install packages, and so on.
Tinkerers will always be fine. But a distro that aims to be universal
like Devuan must also cater for those who are not willing to tinker
around, IMHO.
I'm quoting the above in order to express appreciation for it -- in
context. Like Steve Litt, I favour the smallest possible entanglement
with Freedesktop.org 'desktop' components and their characteristic
tangled dependency trees and difficult-to-justify complications,
-=but=- the key fact is that Devuan Project has committed to be a
universal operating system, construed as including DE-style software
integration.
I would not have supported that commitment, personally, but nonetheless
can summon the wisdom to avoid expecting this project to abandon its
principles just because I don't share some of them. And I thank you for
aptly restating those principles.
Let me also agree with both of you. When I rant against Dbus, gvfs
and watever entanglement, it's not to express the will that Devuan tries
to eradicate them. It's just to tell that *I* aim to eradicate them from
*my own desktop*, while retaining some mouse-click operability because
not everybody at home is able to work from the command line. I try to
preserve a good and easy "DE experience" with as less entanglement as
possible.
When I say I think people sharing the same will as me have a good
chance to be on this list, I do not mean to include all the members of
the list.
I apreciate very much Devuan as it is and I apreciate that the new
eudev allows to eradicate libsystemd0, even if libsystemd0 has been
harmless up to now. I like the idea of not having to read/write this
word anymore :~)
Didier
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