On Thursday 27 December 2018 05:06:04 am Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Speaking as someone who hosts a couple of dozen email lists, I really
> don't understand what the fuss is about here.
>
> DMARC breaks mailing lists - it's that simple.  It breaks pretty much
> anything that forwards mail.  (FYI:  Early on, it broke the IETF's
> lists.  Rather annoying, that.)
>
> If one runs a list, and wants folks on gmail, AOL - any service that
> honors p=reject - then one has to:
>
> 1. adjust headers so that list mail appears to originate from the list
> manager, not from the original author

1.) is my understanding of what TDE does.  Here are some of the {snipped} TDE 
headers:

Return-Path: <trinity-users-return-{snip}@lists.pearsoncomputing.net>
Envelope-to: {snip}@inet-design.com
Reply-To: trinity-us...@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
From: Michael <{snip}@inet-design.com>
To: trinity-us...@lists.pearsoncomputing.net
X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: srv04.srv04-inet-design.com: authenticated_id: 
inetd/from_h
X-Authenticated-Sender: srv04.srv04-inet-design.com: {snip}@inet-design.com
 
My guess is it's either, or both together, Reply-To or Return-Path that make 
the desired behavior change.  Based upon the email ‘From: chillfan’ here that 
doesn’t work that has in the headers:

Reply-To: chill...@protonmail.com  [1]

instead of no ‘Reply-To:’ at all for messages here that do work.

(Return-Path seems to already be set.)
(Added the X- as TDE seems to authenticate me as a sender, where Devuan 
doesn’t.  No real idea if that’s relevant.)

# # #

As we seem to be way over thinking this....

Suggestion:  Just try adding, or replacing if already present, the ‘Reply-To:’ 
for all messages with the value:

Reply-To: dng@lists.dyne.org

That’s not going to break the list, and will answer the question immediately.

Best,
Michael

[1] I would mangle that, but it’s clear text in the original.
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