On Thursday 27 December 2018 05:06:04 am Miles Fidelman wrote: > Speaking as someone who hosts a couple of dozen email lists, I really > don't understand what the fuss is about here. > > DMARC breaks mailing lists - it's that simple. It breaks pretty much > anything that forwards mail. (FYI: Early on, it broke the IETF's > lists. Rather annoying, that.) > > If one runs a list, and wants folks on gmail, AOL - any service that > honors p=reject - then one has to: > > 1. adjust headers so that list mail appears to originate from the list > manager, not from the original author
1.) is my understanding of what TDE does. Here are some of the {snipped} TDE headers: Return-Path: <trinity-users-return-{snip}@lists.pearsoncomputing.net> Envelope-to: {snip}@inet-design.com Reply-To: trinity-us...@lists.pearsoncomputing.net From: Michael <{snip}@inet-design.com> To: trinity-us...@lists.pearsoncomputing.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: srv04.srv04-inet-design.com: authenticated_id: inetd/from_h X-Authenticated-Sender: srv04.srv04-inet-design.com: {snip}@inet-design.com My guess is it's either, or both together, Reply-To or Return-Path that make the desired behavior change. Based upon the email ‘From: chillfan’ here that doesn’t work that has in the headers: Reply-To: chill...@protonmail.com [1] instead of no ‘Reply-To:’ at all for messages here that do work. (Return-Path seems to already be set.) (Added the X- as TDE seems to authenticate me as a sender, where Devuan doesn’t. No real idea if that’s relevant.) # # # As we seem to be way over thinking this.... Suggestion: Just try adding, or replacing if already present, the ‘Reply-To:’ for all messages with the value: Reply-To: dng@lists.dyne.org That’s not going to break the list, and will answer the question immediately. Best, Michael [1] I would mangle that, but it’s clear text in the original. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng