On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:09:59 +0100 info at smallinnovations dot nl <i...@smallinnovations.nl> wrote:
> On 18-11-18 09:36, KatolaZ wrote: > > This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in > > debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and > > personal insults). The truth is that too many people have a problem > > with other people not liking systemd and not wanting it around. So > > I am sorry but Devuan will stay around. > > > > HND > > > > KatolaZ > > That had been to be expected the origins of Devuan were not a polite > conversation and language used on this list against debian-devs still > contains harsh words. And proud of it. Debian's behavior in 2014 was inexcusable. Systemd is inexcusable except as a profit motive to Redhat. They laughed at Devuan and said it would never get off the ground. Devuan persists today, as an ever more popular distro, in spite of the stumbling blocks the Debian systemd afficianados throw into Debian. In this new moment of love and understanding, it's perhaps instructive to see exactly how the sausage was made: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 Gotta give that guy Paul Tagliamonte credit: He kept things on the straight and narrow to make systemd not only the default, but perhaps the only, sending any lines of questioning he didn't like to other threads. It would be interesting to find out his motives. And who can forget the GR, where, at the last minute, when it appeared that they stacked the deck, by adding a new alternative, when it looked like the GR would demand Debian work without a systemd PID1? Why in the WORLD would Devuan ever assimilate back into the corrupt Debian? SteveT Steve Litt November 2018 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Brand new, second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng