On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 12:16:01 +0100, Martin wrote in message <2230094.aIEOJzzQQQ@merkaba>:
> Arnt Karlsen - 03.11.18, 00:10: > > ..I'm beginning to think the good people at kde.org may have > > prepared themselves for this, by supporting, but not depending on > > systemd: 8o) > > That is a pattern I saw with KDE project for quite some time. For > example, Plasma's audio support called Phonon allows to plugin > several multimedia frameworks. > > > ..maybe we should take over KDE like we did sysvinit? ..here is where I should have said "maybe we should take over KDE packaging in Debian like we did with sysvinit?", I see I appear more, er, imperialistic than I meant to be. :o) > I would not aim at taking over KDE. But a cooperation on supporting > Plasma on distributions without Systemd might be beneficial. As far > as I know it should mostly work in the current state, as, as you > said: Plasma does support Systemd, but not depend on it. > > > ..given RHEL's KDE move, and Ubuntu's init system(d), and the > > historical systemd banana republic politics, they _may_ prefer > > a plan B sort of wisdom over expensive panic attacks, if or > > "if" somebody shoots down "systemd support of KDE"... > > Why would somebody do it? ..well, remember what happened to init system freedom of choise in Debian? _Somebody_ shot it down. ;o) > I don't think anyone has this kind of > control over the project to just force it over them. KDE is one of > the friendliest communities I have ever witnessed so far, there is no > need to take it over or anything. Just work with them. .._agreed._ > Again, I'd focus on what I like to achieve, instead of wasting my > energy to be against something. All the energy put into resisting > systemd is better spend in supporting the alternatives. > > Of course you are free to spend your energy any way you like to. > > Currently I think there would not be all that much to do for KDE, > however I know for sure when I switch to Devuan for my desktop based > systems as well. ..as long as the good people at kde.org know us, and we them, I see _no_ worries. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list [email protected] https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
