On 10/17/18 8:51 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead. An
edit/patch would aim to make sysvinit recognise unit files and run
scripts when instructed to.
Before I get a barrage of smart-ass replies like 'You do not
understand', yes, I know, it is EASIER SAID than DONE. Everything
technical is like that, unfortunately.
This has been discussed before on this list. My proposal was to replace
libsystemd0 with a devuan specific version (see Re: [DNG] Provides:
libsystemd0 (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)) with a modular api system.
Which also could be extended to a version that uses the systemd unit
file.
But it is not simple and i do not have the programmer skills to build it
my self.
Actually, it's NOT that difficult...
On one distro I've seen, the sysv init scripts sources a system shell
function file.
Care to name that distro?
One of those functions would test for the presence of elements of
systemd. If found, use systemd and it's unit files. Else use "normal"
init mechanisms.
I used to patch the init scripts to make systemd "vanish" for certain
things... Then the distro devs pulled that ability from that system
shell function file.
How long ago?
"They" REALLY want to force the use of systemd.
I REALLY don't want to use systemd. I've seen too many problems since
it's introduction.
Now that I've completed my sermon to the choir... Shall I speak on the
patch to Apache they felt necessary that broke serving wordpress?
Not unless it's relevant / important to Devuan :)
Antony.
Anthony
I'm trying REALLY hard to not escalate this so I'll just leave the
distro unnamed, if I may.
It isn't out of North Carolina though.
The sysV patch trick disappeared... I guess about two years ago in a
rolling update. It made me unhappy.
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