Hi, Edward Bartolo wrote: > [RANT; if you hate rants, don't read it] > > Linux is getting exaspirating... It is not definitely the Linux I knew > when I started using it back in 2006-2007. Like Windows, Linux is now > allowing advertising to pass through, with the disadvantage of a > nightmare whenever a package fails to install. > > I asked, supposedly on a development mailing list, but nobody knows > how my problem can be solved! The only presented advice was to enable > multiarch, something that I always did whenever I wanted wine. The > problem is a library, libwine:i386, but that clashes with other > packages.
Hi Edward, First, although you didn't specify, I think your rant may be about Debian/Devuan Linux as your reference to package conflicts sounds specific to debian package management system. Yes, your issue sounds like some administration, some hands-on required, in the complexities of the package system, however I would assume this is well visited territory and many people have succeeded in installing wine under multiarch. There is always some assembly required with Debian, compared to Ubuntu. > The uneasy feeling that the time to go back to my old days of using MS > Windows is getting more frequent. Sorry, but a tool that cannot be > used whenever the need arises is useless. Sometimes you can't escape the engineering details, in this case in the package system, with its dependency graphs. So you either take time to figure it out yourself, or hire someone to help you, or find a Linux distribution where wine is better integrated. I'm not in love with all of debian's choices, but multiarch is something amazing, and getting all the software from volunteers paying nothing for it is freaking amazing. Probably you are ranting, but consider soberly and you will understand that for easy gratification, getting precompiled software is pretty freaking awesome compared to compiling it yourself. I like gobolinux package system a lot more, but that is irrelevent. The cumulative investment in creating packages and providing repositories and infrastructure to deliver debian/devuan/ubuntu/etc packages is enormous. I prefer to install my own perl, but when I couldnt compile Tk, great to have the debian package available. > An elegant solution would be to build the wine, wine32, wine64 > executables to hold all the required libraries but climbing Olympus > Mons on Mars without a spacesuite seems a lesser challenge. Now that VMs are so available, it's worth fooling around with various distributions to see how they handle wine and multiarch. When I was a kid, you had to reboot your system to try another OS. These days you can even install linux distributions on your android phone.[1] But you shouldn't have to jump ship to another linux distribution or to windows, just face the weirdnesses of the package dependency graph, or perhaps a requirement to recompile something. If you can reproduce the problematic behavior and describe it, a bug report is a helpful contribution. 1. https://termux.com/ > [/RANT] > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Joel Roth _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
