On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 22:00:06 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen <paddy-h...@member.fsf.org> wrote:
> I just realized that true init-freedom should be systemd-inclusive, so > don't put that dpkg-cfg hack in any kind of "init-freedom" package, > please. I'm pretty sure I was the person who originated the phrase "init-freedom". This can be fact-checked on the Debian-User mailing list archives for the second half of 2014. Init-freedom is a marketing phrase, created to counter all the systemd bullshit. A few facts... * Devuan has absolutely no duty to facilitate installation of systemd or any of its components on a Devuan system. Those wanting systemd have plenty of other choices without Devuan. * Anything that destroys or detains systemd in the marketplace improves init-freedom, because systemd in init systems in that it explicitly prevents init replacement. * Init-freedom is not a grand concept to be sought after. It is 1) An anti-systemd marketing phrase, and, 2) The normal state of affairs before systemd reared its ugly head. Use the phrase all you want in winning arguments against the logical-fallacy laden systemd spokesmen, but don't take it too seriously. SteveT Steve Litt Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng