Jimmy Johnson - 09.07.18, 12:00: > On 07/09/2018 02:53 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Hi Katola. > > > > KatolaZ - 09.07.18, 09:51: > >> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >>> On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > >>>> On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote: > >>>>> Hi Jimmy, > >>>>> > >>>>> El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió: > >>>>>> Thoughts? Volunteers? > >>>>> > >>>>> I also would like to see devuan including its own kernel. I can > >>>>> help > >>>>> on packaging stuff. > >>>>> > >>>>> Aitor. > >>>> > >>>> I am not a kernel guy so maybe i am asking a stupid question; but > >>>> what other parts besides the official kernel from kernel.org > >>>> would you install? Or leave out? > >>> > >>> I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk > >>> about a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about > >>> one. > >>> > >>> Something I haven't done but maybe a kernel source package can be > >>> opened to expose what is in there? Something way over my head. > >>> Anybody friends with Klaus Knopper? Or has other sources for help? > >>> Maybe someone from Puppy Linux? > >> > >> The only problem with this theory is that Linus has not been the > >> only > >> developer of the Linux kernel at least since September 1991. > >> Nowadays > >> the Linux kernel has thousands of developers. If such a "backdoor" > >> existed, we would know about it, as we knew about the Spectre and > >> Meltdown vulnerabilities. You simply can't silence everybody, even > >> if > >> you are the NSA. > >> > >> Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read > >> through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified... > > > > I agree with that. > > > > This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim > > that something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt. > > Some parts of conspiracy theories may turn out to have been true, > > like for example all the spying the NSA and other secret agencies > > are doing. But I see no benefit in fearing something I have seen no > > proof of. > > > > Anyone ever saw any proof that such a backdoor exists within the > > Linux kernel source? I haven´t. > > > > Aside from that, I´d be more vary about the firmware in PCs. The > > closed- source binary blobs almost everyone is using who is using a > > computer these days. > > > > I do not think this discussion is helpful. There may be reasons for > > an own kernel, but IMO this is no reason. > > Martin you are active with both KDE and Debian Development, I would > not expect you to be of much help, so pleas stay out of the way.
I wanted to write a longer reply, but there is no point, for as long as you decide that I am or KatolaZ or the Linux kernel are against you. But in case you´d like to check whether I contributed something to a Debian package *specifically* for the aim of Devuan, just check the changelog of the fio package. Beware, there may be facts inside. -- Martin _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
