Hi Katola.

KatolaZ - 09.07.18, 09:51:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 03:52:48PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > On 07/08/2018 02:49 PM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > > On 08-07-18 23:32, aitor_czr wrote:
> > > > Hi Jimmy,
> > > > 
> > > > El 08/07/18 a las 23:24, Jimmy Johnson escribió:
> > > > > Thoughts? Volunteers?
> > > > 
> > > > I also would like to see devuan including its own kernel. I can
> > > > help
> > > > on packaging stuff.
> > > > 
> > > >    Aitor.
> > > 
> > > I am not a kernel guy so maybe i am asking a stupid question; but
> > > what other parts besides the official kernel from kernel.org
> > > would you install? Or leave out?
> > 
> > I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk
> > about a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about one.
> > 
> > Something I haven't done but maybe a kernel source package can be
> > opened to expose what is in there?  Something way over my head.
> > Anybody friends with Klaus Knopper? Or has other sources for help?
> > Maybe someone from Puppy Linux?
> 
> The only problem with this theory is that Linus has not been the only
> developer of the Linux kernel at least since September 1991. Nowadays
> the Linux kernel has thousands of developers. If such a "backdoor"
> existed, we would know about it, as we knew about the Spectre and
> Meltdown vulnerabilities. You simply can't silence everybody, even if
> you are the NSA.
> 
> Literally anybody can get the sources of the Linux kernel and read
> through it. So I guess your fears are somehow unjustified...

I agree with that.

This discussion seems bordering on conspiracy theories. Those claim that 
something might be true and sow fear, uncertainty and doubt. Some parts 
of conspiracy theories may turn out to have been true, like for example 
all the spying the NSA and other secret agencies are doing. But I see no 
benefit in fearing something I have seen no proof of.

Anyone ever saw any proof that such a backdoor exists within the Linux 
kernel source? I haven´t.

Aside from that, I´d be more vary about the firmware in PCs. The closed-
source binary blobs almost everyone is using who is using a computer 
these days.

I do not think this discussion is helpful. There may be reasons for an 
own kernel, but IMO this is no reason.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin


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