On 07/04/2018 02:04 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 04/07/2018 à 09:54, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
On 07/03/2018 11:04 PM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 04/07/2018 à 05:10, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
On 07/03/2018 09:35 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 02/07/2018 à 10:49, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
There is another option I do not see mentioned in this thread and that is to purge network manager and use wicd exclusively, I have done that and it works swell.

     Better purge both.

         Didier


Why?

Thanks,

     As already said, they are useless - provided network-tools is installed and interfaces correctly configured - and these two network managers tend to configure/deconfigure the network interfaces in a way which isn't the one you want. They essentially mess up the configuration.

         Didier

It sounds like you are talking about network manager.  I don't believe wicd has the traits you are talking about.  As for me it's handy to connect and disconnect, mostly disconnect while using multimedia. I've never heard of wicd doing anything wrong, it's certainly not part of systemd or married to systemd in any way.

Thanks,

    Let me explain in a different way what I have understood - and I may be wrong on wicd because I remove it immediately after every install, as well as I used to do with network-manager.

     There are 4 ways to configure your network:

    1) Invoke the ip command and wpa_supplicant by hand all the time, or write your own scripts

    2) the good old net-tools, which provides ifupdown, the interfaces file and all the ready-made scripts

    3) network-manager, which is a replacement for the previous, decides of everything, and cannot be configured.

    4) wicd, that is essentially the same logic as network-manager, rewritten and with another name.

    They cannot live all three together: they continuously fight against each other.

    net-tools gives you full power; it can be configured in great detail. At the cost of reading some docs, of course. network-manager and wicd do everything for you, but don't complain if it's not what you want.

    And, to tell everything, if you need dynamic interfaces configuration/deconfiguration, you also need ifplugd or netplug (again, don't install both). I think netplug must be configured by editing the config file, while ifplugd is configured by running dpkg-reconfigure.

             Didier


If you don't want to use wicd, that's fine, but blame it for things that NM is doing is silly and technically not helpful to anyone.

Thanks,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Devuan Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2
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