I agree that a fork is needed, but I think this would be a whole lot of work.

IMHO, it's not enough to just disable features by default or have good 
defaults. The fact they are there to begin with is a similar argument as with 
systemd - we don't want to install these features to begin with, and want a 
smaller browser.

There's a lot of things that should/could be removed - pocket, ebook mode, ads 
in tabs, dbus support, aspell hard dependency (in packages) and especially EME 
features, google safe browsing, health reporting, etc.

A lot of times a forks fall short of taking care of everything, sometimes 
features are built but disabled by default (which is not much better than 
disabling it yourself). AFAIK there's no general purpose fork that takes care 
of *all* the freedom and bloat issues.

If palemoon offered something akin to extended support releases it would be a 
great candidate for that, as it would be suitable for Devuan stable releases. 
From there it would be easy to offer an alternative build from the same source 
package, without some of the stuff we don't like.

I tried building my own palemoon packages recently from Steve Pussers sources, 
and was able to disable dbus and pulse support very easily but sadly my builds 
were very unstable.

​Thanks,

chillfan

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

On March 27, 2018 10:43 PM, taii...@gmx.com <taii...@gmx.com> wrote:


> "Oh but you can opt-out"
> 
> Assuming you even know about it in the first place - and what? you need
> 
> to opt-out of probably thousands of bad things in your life which makes
> 
> such a policy absolute bullshit.
> 
> "If it was opt-in no one would do it and therefo-"
> 
> Yeah no shit - because no one really wants their data collected

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