On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 05:10:35PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Tuesday 09 January 2018 at 16:52:35, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > BACKSTORY... > > > > I'm the *originator* of VimOutliner, an outline processor that uses the > > Vim engine. VimOutliner's top priority was authoring speed. That > > priority drove most VimOutliner keyboard commands to begin with a > > double comma (,,), which is both extremely easy to hit from typing home > > position, and very unlikely to happen within written text. I published > > VimOutliner 0.13 June 1 2001. > > > > Several other people used it, liked it, and improved it far beyond my > > capabilities. Several Linux distros acquired VimOutliner packages. > > Unfortunately, the Debian VimOutliner package manager insisted on using > > double backslash (//) instead of double comma (,,) as the first two > > characters of commands. The double backslash is slower, and more > > important, it's a key that appears in different places on different > > keyboards. Use of the double backslash represents a degradation of > > VimOutliner's top priority: Authoring speed. > > > > I'm thinking of making the Devuan VimOutliner package use double comma. > > I'd take the Debian package and replace all appropriate double > > backslashes with double commas. > > > > Please understand, there is no SystemD dependency in the current Debian > > VimOutliner package. It doesn't in any way violate any Devuan policy. > > It simply uses the wrong string for the purposes of outlining. > > > > As mentioned, I'm the originator of VimOutliner, and as such I set the > > priorities, and the top priority has consistently been authoring speed. > > I can either modify the "standard" VimOutliner for my own use, or I can > > make a new, double comma equipped package for Devuan. Anyone have an > > opinion on this? > > It sounds like you have good justification for the double-comma choice, and > of > course as originator you can release the application however you like > (although under an Open Source licence, so can anyone else modify it however > they like). > > My suggestion, rather than modifying the Debian package and keeping the name > the same, thereby leading to potential confusion between Debian and Devuan > systems, would be to do the modification but adjust the package name (maybe > add > "comma"? or "Litt"?) so that both packages remain available in Devuan (and > there aren't unexpected consequences for Debian upgraders).
or vimoutliner-authentic? -- hendrik _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng