On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 07:50:33AM +0100, John Hughes wrote: > On 16/11/17 01:59, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >This situation is nothing unexpected. Many of us predicted in 2014 that > >Debian would continue throwing down all the anti-anti-systemd > >obstructionism they could muster. It would not be unreasonable to > >expect that the time will come where most Debian packages will fail to > >provide sysvinit scripts. > > Or, an alternative, non-conflictual interpretation -- people scratch the > itches they have. > > >If/when this time comes, we have several alternatives: > > > >1) Help the Debian maintainers, as several have suggested in this > >thread. > > > >2) Write our own sysvinit scripts, for Devuan only. > > > >3) Write Process Supervisor scripts, and run daemons from a Process > >Supervisor. > > > > > >I personally don't like #1. The Debian maintainers are > >obstructionists, so I wouldn't help them: I wouldn't give them the > >sweat off my W*(#RF(#*. > > You wouldn't be giving any thing to the Debian developers, you'd be giving > to the Debian *users* (and, therefore) to the users of every Debian derived > distribution, including Devuan. > > >#2 is nice, helps give Devuan a unique brand, but IMHO making and > >maintaining a good-for-all-setups sysvinit script is difficult and time > >consuming. As a matter of fact, those horrible scripts necessary to > >cover most cases, is what made people furious at sysvinit in the first > >place: I don't think anyone cared about boot time or parallel > >instantiation. > > But you are outraged that the some Debian developers don't want to do this, > accusing them of bad faith. >
John, please. Your response does not add any single bit of intormation, and is not better than Steve's one. Let's try to see if the DM is able to fullfil his promise to keep the scripts in. Peace KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
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