On Fri, 3 Nov 2017 at 00:54:44 -0400 "taii...@gmx.com" <taii...@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 11/02/2017 09:47 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> Yes, I know, they failed disabling ME and they stopped even trying. > Their website/marketing says that it is "disabled" when it isn't. Yes, it is, and it is verifiable and repeatable: https://puri.sm/posts/purism-librem-laptops-completely-disable-intel-management-engine/ The Librem 13 and Librem 15 products can be purchased today and will arrive with the Management Engine disabled by default, and it can be verified to be disabled with the source code released to confirm the disablement is accurate. Showing “ME: FW Partition Table : BAD; ME: Bringup Loader Failure : YES” Of course you could prove their claim false and sink them. This is you golden opportunity to do away with their competition, do it! >> Purism >> has gone farther than anyone though possible just two years ago > They didn't make ME_cleaner or contribute to its development at all FYI, I never made that claim, in fact I wrote (if only would you do some reading from time to time): From: Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> To: dng@lists.dyne.org Message-ID: <20171103024713.68feecc1@ayu.localdomain> Where did you read anything about intel_me cleaner in https://puri.sm/posts/deep-dive-into-intel-me-disablement/ ? You're stuck with old news. > there isn't anything special about their laptops that justifies the $2K > price tag There is much more than justifies a desktop produced by no-one knows whom that promises to deliver a free system after people will have turned out $4,750.00 for their basic system based on pure faith and no documentation, no blueprints, no insight into their dealings of any nature. > If one insists on a new intel laptop and doesn't mind a blobbed/ME'd > coreboot there are a variety of much less expensive options that support > me cleaner. People do mind, that's the reason they could fully disable it and that's the reason they gained the trust of thousand of customers for their present and future products. Most of what in the past was proprietary and closed-sourced is today at least usable on libre software because people took the heavy task of reverse-engineering it to produce a workable free version. The job is tought and always takes a long time, but those who do it are worthy people working for freedom, those who are today doing this work on Intel chipsets and CPUs are just as worthy. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
