On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:47:58 +0100 Arnt Gulbrandsen <a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote:
> Arnt Karlsen writes: > > ..which idea is worse then, keep having dbus interacting with > > ssh-agent, or ripping out dbus of Devuan? > > Ripping it out looks like a lot of work, based on just a quick look > at dpkg/status. A lot of nontrivial things to think about. Perhaps not. In an earlier email I demonstrated a likelihood that my Void Linux ssh-agent has absolutely no dependency or interaction with dbus, and given that Void Linux is a rolling release, this is likely a very modern version of ssh-agent. If the Void folks' ssh-agent has absolutely no connection or even stub to dbus, then it's likely that any connection is a compile time option, like --with-dbus or --without-dbus. [snip printer driver, which I'm not suggesting de-dbussing] > $ grep 'Depends.*dbus' /var/lib/dpkg/status | wc -l > 179 > $ > > 179 tasks to do, and some of them difficult? That may be months of > fulltime work. Dbus would have to be really very bad to justify that. Dbus is pretty darn bad, and was bad before systemd was a gleam in Poettering's eye: http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm#_My_First_Escape_Attempt NOTE: The preceding link will become functional later today. Troubleshooters.Com was shut down for 5 days due to Hurricane Irma and will fully be restored tonight. But beyond that, I wasn't suggesting removal of dbus from everything. For software designed from the ground up to be a promiscuous communicator, like Gnome and KDE apps, something like dbus is essential, so I spoze dbus is as good as anything. However, ssh-agent is a nice, encapsulated little utility, so there's no reason I can see to encumber it with dbus. If I were to suggest de-dbussing, it would be only for ssh-agent. SteveT Steve Litt September 2017 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Brand new, second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
