On 19/08/17 16:46, Dave Turner wrote:
On 18/08/17 18:45, Steve Litt wrote:
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:36:12 +0100
Dave Turner <dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/08/17 00:22, Joel Roth wrote:
deleted /lib/udev and all the sub-directories
With eudev I have a working keyboard so today I went in and removed
/etc/systemd/* . Re-booted and I still have a working keyboard but no
network connection!
Hi Dave,

I think you have /etc/init.d/networking or something like that. This
shellscript assumes a certain name for your network interface. Your
move to eudev might have changed that name.

Perform the following command to learn interface names:

ip link

Strongarm your network name(s) into /etc/init.d/networking as needed.

If you really, really can't get /etc/init.d/networking to do the job,
here's a shellscript to bring up a wired interface to a defined IP:

#!/bin/bash
ip link set dev enp3s0 down
ip addr add 192.168.100.2/24 dev enp3s0
ip addr add 192.168.100.102/24 dev enp3s0
ip link set dev enp3s0 up
ip route add default via 192.168.100.96

Assuming your interface is named enp3s0 (and rename it if not), the
preceding script will work on any distro.

Somewhere in the past I posted, on this list, a shellscript to deduce
the name of the wired interface, and jam it into an environment
variable so it could be passed to scripts like the preceding.

If you want to boot up wifi, you need your boot to early run, *with
respawn*, wpa_supplicant, as aa daemon. This means for sysvinit put it
in /etc/inittab, not in /etc/init.d/S0whateverwpa_supplicant.

If, like me, you're willing to be disloyal to your distro, you can
start up your network trivially.


SteveT

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I'll have a go at your and Svante's suggestions probably on Sunday evening. Saturday and Sunday I will be putting my Harley back together and going for a ride.

DaveT

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I have a working devuan ascii with no systemd no dbus no udev and no pulseaudio on my old iMac. (no X11 either, but we'll come to that)

I installed eudev and then I deleted /etc/init.d/udev and rebooted.

Deleted /etc/systemd/         and rebooted, everything still works.

Deleted /lib/systemd/         and rebooted, everything still works.
Deleted /var/lib/systemd/     and rebooted, everything still works.
Deleted /usr/lib/systemd/     and rebooted, everything still works.

udev is gone and is replaced by eudev. I left the udev files in place in /etc /lib because no eudev files had appeared so I think eudev makes use of the udev files. I felt disinclined to break the system again by deleting them! But if anyone can confirm or deny that would be nice.

For sound I installed flac, alsa-utils, and the ncurses media player moc. alsa-utils includes alsa-mixer and that let me un-mute the sound. And it works! I think the docs on alsa and sound on linux have become divorced from reality over  the years, I know how to read and follow instructions, I should have been able to do this years ago. I had to do it by trial and error!

To confirm: the 'sound' section in aptitude shows only alsa-utils and moc; flac is in the 'libs' section as libflac8.

I have had a good look at what xserver-xorg-core pulls in. libsystemd0 gets pulled in. Oh well, I'll just have to put up with it won't I!

I can cope with twm and I really like ctwm so I was shocked when I realised that the version of ctwm in debian is 10 years old! Version 4.0.1 was released by the ctwm people in June this year. I had to download the code and compile it. I used 'checkinstall' to create the package and it works too! Obviously that was a few weeks and a couple of rebuilds ago.

DaveT
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