Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > Uh-huh. Seen that. > > https://xkcd.com/927/ > > That's not relevant to this particular discussion, as it discusses a > standard, not a term to unify two terms that, at least from a certain > viewpoint, are the same thing.
I believe the application of cartoonist Randall Munroe's concept should be fully clear. (If it nonetheless isn't to you, I can easily live with that.) Anyway, you have invented in your mind a problem that (in my considered view) doesn't exist, tried to present a really terrible solution to the alleged problem, and (not _just_ in my considered view, but observably) gotten zero pickup. Which brings us to date. Some day, you really ought to study the particulars of the X Window System sufficiently to get to knowthe basic categories (such as the three I detailed upthread) and where the forest of rc files are and what they do. The latter is the difficult part, because, frankly, X11 itself is an infamously baroque design. For some cheap computerist entertainment on _that_ subject, read veteran UI coder Don Hopkins's chapter 'The X-Windows Disaster'[1] in _The UNIX-HATER's Handbook_ (1994). Co-editor Simson Garfinkel has kindly put it online in PDF form: http://simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf Said volume, a flawed minor classic of the rant genre, has always had fans in Unixdom, including yr. present correspondent. It's a compilation of postings to the old (long-gone, I think) mailing list UNIX-HATERS, mostly sent by disgruntled devotees of Symbolics, Inc. LISP Machines and a few Mac-heads uncharacteristically able to use their keyboards. ;-> (In other words, the critiques are all rather ancient in 2017.) So, anyway, X11 somewhat sucks. (Will Wayland suck less? Don't hold your breath waiting.) > Back to the current discussion. The slim login screen could easily give > one a choice between KDE (which everyone would term a Desktop > Environment) and DWM (which everyone would term a Window Manager). I'm sure the Devuan Project would gratefully accept your patch. > And forget "session", because if one needs to, as you put it in a > different email, slim parses /usr/share/xsessions/. That's an > implementation detail, not a commonly used terminology. If you think X Session Managers are not a standard commonly used terminology, and/or that said directory doesn't exist specifically for them, then you are mistaken. [1] As the book explains, Don Hopkins made a point of saying 'X-Windows' _because_ that term is deprecated by the X authorities (on trademark grounds, IIRC) and he thereby hoped to annoy X Window System people. Which is very much in the spirit of pique that informs the book as a whole. Hopkins has ample credibility for writing said critique, being a qualified authority on X _and_ also on Sun NeWS. It's a tragedy that NeWS lost the adoption batter to the X Window System, because it was head and shoulders better -- but the fact is that Sun refused to licence that code and related patents on liberal grounds, whereas X lacked those obstacles, so it won despite its drawbacks. Unix-family OSes have won (become ubiquitous) for extremely similar reasons. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
