On 07/11/2017 05:28 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
make it crystal clear: fuck off the
upstream.

Do you want to say that devuan users do not need any upstream that recommends systemd?
For example, Postgresql?
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With PostgreSQL 9.6 or newer, it is recommended to build with --with-systemd and use the unit file shown in the documentation...
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https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Systemd
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