Hello all, I'd like to get a few comments in to the devuan developers before a "fix" is decided upon. I'll also share the anecdote of how a separate problem in the devuan infrastructure indirectly saved me from falling victim to this incident:
1] IMO, the issue isn't really that devuan wasn't prepared for debian's naming change; it's that devuan decided to redirect users to repositories of another project. 2] That decision is guaranteed to be a source of future problems, even as it saves the devuan project bandwidth and hosting costs. 3] Now might be a good time to review the cost-savings of that decision against: 3.1] The overhead costs of maintaining the complexities of redirecting to outside repositories and maintaining the merged devuan repository. 3.2] The replacement of one point of failure (a theoretical complete devuan repository) with three points (the redirect mechanism, the devuan merged repository, the debian infrastructure). 3.3] The consequences to devuan's reputation from being reliant on the whims, fortunes, and circumstances of an outside project. 3.3.1] There might be a chicken-and-egg issue here in that potential enterprise sponsors of the project might be hesitant to support devuan because of how it has decided to manage its infrastructure, while the devuan project might be hesitant to invest in 100% in-huose infrastructure without enterprise sponsorship. Personally, I have only a single devuan install, for non-commercial use, based upon a combination of `stable' and `testing', and it was saved because I had earlier noticed that the devuan infrastructure wasn't supporting "translation" repositories. I noticed this when `apt-cache show' wasn't displaying extended package descriptions for non-installed packages. The best `fix' I came up with for this was a `kludge' of reading debian's translation files directly from their repositories. However, because this was my own 'kludge', I felt uncomfortable enough with it that I began staging software upgrades with `apt-get -s upgrade' and double-checking which repository and which version were being used. Because I'm a persistently careful guy, I continued doing this for weeks, so when the ascii/buster issue arose, I noticed a problem immediately, but thought it was somehow due to my personal 'kludge', and manually postponed upgrading those particular files until I had time to investigate. -- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng