On 04/23/2017 07:13 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:54:07 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > <20170419185407.228cd...@nb6.lan>: > >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:21:53 +1000, Ralph wrote in message >> <d3a264ce-a767-dffc-845d-d1eb26027...@gmail.com>: >> >>> >>> >>> Arnt Karlsen wrote on 19/04/17 23:17: >>> [cut] >>>> >>>> ...wiped udev off my box and wound up with a box that boots oh soo >>>> fine until it tries to load my new vdev >>>> initrd.img-4.9.0-2-rt-amd64 ...am I the first one here to try this >>>> on a rt kernel? >>>> >>>> ..recovery ideas? Do we have any vdev live-cd? >>>> >>>> ..last time I did this stunt, I chrooted in off a Knoppix? iso, >>>> I have memdisk and a few iso links handy in /boot, and Debian's >>>> Sid vmlinuz-4.8.0-2-amd64, vmlinuz-4.8.0-2-rt-amd64 and >>>> vmlinuz-4.9.0-1-rt-amd64 with systemd-udev initrd's, but they all >>>> depend on a working install of udev AFAIK, and I'd prefer pushing >>>> thru with vdev rather than going back to udev. >>>> >>>> ..has anyone here tried downgrading to Debian Wheezy era udev? >>>> >>>> >>>> ..looking for recovery live-cd idea starting points, I came across >>>> 32-bit >>>> https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/zz02debiandogwheezy.html >>>> which could work both as a starting point for a live-cd and as a >>>> starting point for an upgrade path for stuck Debian Wheezy people >>>> via "Devuan-0.x Wheezy" to current Devuan-1.x Jessie. >>>> >>>> ..according to https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/ "DebianDog is >>>> very small Debian Live CD shaped to look and act like Puppy Linux. >>>> Debian structure and Debian behaviour are untouched and Debian >>>> documentation is 100% valid for DebianDog. You have access to all >>>> debian repositories using apt-get or synaptic.", creating >>>> "Devuan-0.x Wheezy Live-CD" etc is trivial, toss their repos for >>>> ours, update, upgrade and remaster, the 64-bit version likely >>>> needs to be built off deb-src lines. >>>> >>>> >>>> ..but first comes the classic chicken-and-egg 64 bit recovery >>>> I need now. ;o) >>>> >>> >>> I'm not sure it helps you, but I've made a vdev variant of most >>> recent devuan_jessie_RC_amd64_minimal_live.iso (time stamped >>> 2017-Mar-27 20:57) that I got from the official mirror >>> http://mirror.sfo12.us.leaseweb.net/devuan/ >>> >>> I purged a couple of things from it, then added and installed "my" >>> vdev_0.1.1_amd64.deb, and made a refractasnapshot of this, into >>> devuan_jessie_RC_amd64_minimal_live_vdev.iso, which is downloadable >>> at https://www.uk.realsam.co.uk/files/devuan/ >>> >>> It boots with vdev rather than udev, and udev remains installed, >>> though with all its "competing" files tucked away. As you might >>> know, this vdev packaging is different from aitor's packaging for >>> gnuinos by not declaring a udev competition, but rather attempting >>> to manage a dynamic choice of which one is in use. The software is >>> otherwise the same, I believe. >> >> ..thanks, we shall find out. ;o) > > ..no joy this far, vdev does not work with any of my installed kernels, > neither my dpkg variant of your vdev-assistant nor your original > restores udev, so I'm stuck with live-CDs when I need to go online to > chk things to read up on. > > ..you packaged your vdev differently than aitor, do I then use > your deb(-src) lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out > his? > > ..another approach is ignore apt and dpkg, and simply drop in all > files with tar or cpio or somesuch, haven't done that kinda stunt > since my RH-5.2 days. > > ..if that fails, are you able to build me an old fashion monster > monolithic kernel with nouveau, vdev and everything else compiled > into the kernel, and not as modules, that I can boot without an > initrd? > Big size is no problem, I have 8GB ram, but no build box. > > ..if not, what do I need to build a vdev kernel myself on my > box running your devuan_jessie_RC_amd64_minimal_live_vdev.iso? > >
I don't know if this would be of any help to you, but I have a vdev live iso that I made using Ralph's vdev packages back in October. After reading this thread, I decided to install it and upgrade to the 4.9rt kernel. It boots normally. What I can't seem to do is make a bootable iso with the 4.9rt, even after upgrading live-boot, et. al. to the ascii versions. (There's a problem with the bpo versions of live-boot missing some parts in the initrd related to overlayfs and nls_ascii). If you want to try the October live iso, let me know. -fsmithred _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
