On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:34:08 +0100 Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> wrote: > It underlines the fact Devuan is born > from a huge governance problem in Debian, rather than pure hate for > systemd.
I'm not so sure about that. The manifesto starts out by telling how systemd limits our freedom to do what we want with our computers, and describing that as a cause. Later it also names Debian ridiculogovernance as a cause, but I don't remember it prioritizing either over the other. Speaking just for myself, I prioritize the monolithically entanged architecture of systemd over all else in my OS choices for the last two years. If the Debian dev leadership had foist runit on the community in exactly the same way as they did systemd, heaven help me, I would have been a runit defender, and would have stayed with Debian. I wouldn't have been pleased at Debian treating its community that way, but I would have acquiesced. You'd better believe I'd have also written The Debian Experiments instead of The Manjaro Experiments, and would have shown just how great, cool and easy runit is. I'll never use Debian again because I don't trust them to respect their users. But, I'll also not use systemd, because I don't want that level of monolithic entanglement on my computer. SteveT Steve Litt December 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng