On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:32:52AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Sun, 11 Sep 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > > Does that mean openrc as an option for devuan is gone? > > not at all. We even plan to roll out our own openrc package, ditching > the one from Debian which has many problems. Perhaps what you are > hitting is one of them. > > For Devuan's Openrc we will follow the design proposed by upstream and > Gentoo's, the maintainer volunteering for this is Parazyd (also on > this list) who works with us at Dyne.org. We will also use Openrc in > our projects and are advocating for it as the next new standard in > Devuan ascii, at the condition of a 100% smooth transition from > sysvinit. > > At last, we haven't done anything on the OpenRC package yet so your > problems are entirely caused by the Debian maintainership, which can't > be trusted at all, IMHO
Actually, it appears there's effectively _no_ Debian maintainership. The package was uninstallable (but upgradeable) for two months, including a week after someone posted a patch to the bug report. I've just uploaded that fix. Technically, I do have commit rights to the packaging repository (got them after a NMU), but I've never really cared about openrc -- sysv-rc works well enough for me, at least so far. So, if you have some ideas for what to change, please step up! If you say, "we will follow the design proposed by upstream and Gentoo", the current main maintainer's (Benda Xu's) address @gentoo.org doesn't exactly look like someone not aligned with them :) He apparently has no tuits to work on openrc's maintenance in Debian so I guess any help is welcome. I see some bugs I could fix: * closing fds 0,1,2 is bad (#832940) * scary bogus messages on upgrade about replacing sysv-rc * insserv warnings but I don't commit to any serious work myself, sorry, at least for now. There are areas where you'd want to differentiate Devuan from Debian to give people a reason to switch, but I'd say openrc is one where it'd be a really bad idea: if sysv-rc goes away and openrc is not in a good enough shape, you can count on hordes of systemd fanbois to start purging non-systemd support. And suddenly having to maintain a diff for thousands of packages is something you don't have the manpower for. Meow! -- An imaginary friend squared is a real enemy. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
