On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 09:02:59 +0200 Didier Kryn <k...@in2p3.fr> wrote:
> Le 13/08/2016 19:41, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:12:04 -0400 > > "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" <sli...@citricos.co.cu> wrote: > > > > > >> To my mind would be a better option to opt for eudev that vdev as > >> it has greater support behind. > >> > >> I see half vdev orphan and do not think that support eudev go to > >> decant by systemd. > > And when Red Hat buys maintainership of eudev? > > > > Eudev is free software, isn't it? Yes. So is systemd, and so is Dracut, into which Red hat incorporated systemd things and then emptied its older repositories, making forking much harder. > Udev was their baby and they > integrate it into Systemd. Udev was created by Kroah-Hartmann and Sievers and others somewhere around 2002. I'm not a good enough historian to find out who they worked for back then, but I know that Robert Young still ran Red Hat back then, and Robert Young **NEVER** would have supported the shenanigans done by Redhat today. If it was Redhat's baby, Redhat took it over, possibly by employing Sievers. > Why would they integrate yet another > hotplugger. To stifle systemd competitors. > In fact, they are only going to drop support for Udev, > nothing more. I know nothing about that. > They only support theur own software; isn't that > legitimate? Half of "their own software" was bought, either by acquisition or by hiring project programmers. They then inserted Halloween Code in their newly acquired software so it wouldn't run with non-systemd and non-Freedesktop stuff. Insertion of Halloween code was characterized as "intentional sabotage" by Adam Borowski in this email: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160813.211227.9340d5a5.en.html > Our problem is that their software simply doesn't match > our taste. We have no problem. Redhat's problem is that they create convoluted software requiring a million a year in developer salaries to keep debugged. One can attribute Redhat's actions to some bizarre side effect of technocracy, or, as I prefer to think of it, to anticompetitive practices via "intentional sabotage". But one thing's for sure: they have a pattern and practice of taking simple software and make it complex. Eudev could be next. Our only problem is we don't have enough allies. SteveT Steve Litt August 2016 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Brand new, second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng