On 08/11/2016 11:48 AM, richard lucassen wrote: > On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:05:49 -0400 > Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > >>> And has someone ever played with eudev? Slackware has moved to >>> eudev. Maybe it's better to try that instead of vdev? >> >> Before trading in vdev for eudev, consider this question: What if Red >> Hat bought their way into maintainership of eudev, poetterized it, and >> emptied out previous versions on Git. That's what they did with >> dracut. > > If ever this would happen there will immediately be a fork called fudev. > > And what if RH bought their way into maintainership of the kernel? > >> Are Gentoo and Slackware good stewards for eudev? Slackware has >> consistently avoided a commitment never to go with systemd, and Gentoo >> (as opposed to Funtoo) is very proud of their init agnostic stance, >> which of course they'll kick to the curb at the slightest pressure >> from Redhat. > > I have no idea. But instead of bashing systemd, Poettering and RedHat > c.s., it would be more effective for people here to spend some time in > testing vdev, wouldn't it? (this is not meant to be Steve bashing btw) > >> I love the idea of experimenting with eudev: It's free software, maybe >> we can improve vdev with what we learn from it. But for reasons stated >> in my previous two paragraphs, I think moving our target from vdev to >> eudev would be a bad idea. > > So, please join the Group Of Three who are testing vdev. Without vdev > or any other standalone udev version Devuan is stillborn. This whole > vdev beast is much more complicated than a single daemon. We need > testing, input, otherwise we'll go down the drain. It is as simple as > that. > > R. >
Sorry, I missed two day, and now I've fallen way behind you guys. All I've done so far was install and test Aitor's first deb package, and I already reported on that. One thing I forgot to mention is that, even though it doesn't fully boot (I get error messages about missint ttys) I am able to connect to it through ssh. Anyway, I'm going to start with Jude's directions and see if I can catch up. Meanwhile, I did do something useful, and I can answer your question about eudev - yeah, I tried it, and it seems to work (with minimal testing). I used the debs that David Hare made about a year ago. And let me add that I agree with Steve that we should keep working on vdev. add this line to your sources: deb http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/ experimental main Install this key http://exegnulinux.net/nosystemd/pool/main/e/exegnu-archive-keyring/exegnu-archive-keyring_0.0.1_all.deb apt-get update apt-get install eudev (seems to install the libraries) apt-get -t nosystemd install udev (honest) It will rebuild the initrd. Reboot. Note: I'm testing on a live usb with persistence, so I can easily delete my changes and start over. Note2: I'm still laughing about fudev. -fsr _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
