Quoting Hendrik Boom: > Given the mix, I'd prefer to hear him out rather than ban him.
You-plural should _most_ certainly ban me if Dng cannot accomodate occasional polite mocking of what I see as ideological ranting and tunnel vision that notably fails to get anything done. I couldn't help noticing that my friend Mr. Litt -- the man who insisted you hear all about my views (I didn't) -- spent vast amounts of time posting impassioned stump-speeches on debian-user and accomplishing nothing at all. By contrast, when I finally got around to grappling with the indeed troubling and serious problems in Debian 8 'Jessie', I spent two days finding good workarounds and documenting them (along with their limits) on a Web page pro bono publico. Which approach do _you_ think accomplishes more? (Please note I did _not_, and would not, denigrate Devuan Project's actual _work_, just the dumb ranting stuff. That work is something I expect will accomplish a great deal more and help a lot more people.) > ...deniable. I believe you are crediting me with a _great_ deal more subtlety than anyone who knows me would _ever_ attribute to yr. humble servant, who's about as subtle as his garden's habanero chilis, and whose writings aim to clarify what he _thinks_, not play tiresome games to rile up strangers. I seek _clarity_. If you insist on being offended, that is not my remit. (However, I _am_ still waiting to hear about the Tory of the Blind Man and the Elephant, at our UK friend's earliest convenience. If he feels trolled over that, I'm sorry he can't take a joke.) So, I'd be glad to settle for people gradually ceasing attempting to enforce software religion here and more consistently behave like a software project. I don't like fanatical religion. It killed my friend and congressman, Leo Ryan, at Jonestown, after all, so I tend to take it rather personally and stomp hard on it when I see it. But if you'd prefer to ban me for not singing in that particular choir, that works, too. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng