On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 11:18:09 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20160730111809.17c29...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> On Sat, 30 Jul 2016 10:50:24 +0200 > Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 Jul 2016, aitor_czr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/29/2016 08:53 PM, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> > > > wrote: > > > >Can we get Joey Hess to review it? > > > > > > > >-- hendrik > > > > > > I don't know him, but i think that he would not oppose it :) > > > > > > yes, I think it would be a very healthy iteration for us, to have > > his review. many here have good esteem for his work. if someone > > closer to him can bring his attention to the initiative, then > > please put him in contact with Hellekin, he'll be able to give an > > exhaustive overview on where we are with the constitution. > > > > I'd be also in favor of having Joey Hess on our board of trustees. > > We haven't started any real work with the board, but will soon > > especially after reaching stable and in the process of finalising > > the Constitution and Social Contract. > > Personally, I'd recommend going *very* slowly on that social contract. > It hasn't been needed yet, and the social contract was the hook on > which Debian hung their "systemd take it or leave us" hat. ..2 wise things we can use: the Full 4 Geneva Conventions offer the legal text of the 4 Conventions and its 3 Protocols Additional, e.g. Article 87 Duty of commanders ... https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Article.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=C203555D5F233D81C12563CD0051E1FE ...has its own Commentary, explaining e.g. how to apply it in war: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Comment.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=36FC92EB9E83FBBEC12563CD00437BFB ...and e.g. Article 86 Failure to act ... https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Article.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=043A5B6666FA92E6C12563CD0051E1E7 ...has its own Commentary, explaining e.g. how to apply it in courts: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Comment.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=BA2C2393DA08B951C12563CD00437A1C ...etc. Etc. ..as nobody gets it right the first time they try, the second piece of wisdom I'm happy to shove down anyones throat, is Article 121 in https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1814-05-17 (or in English): https://www.stortinget.no/globalassets/pdf/english/constitutionenglish.pdf which originated as Article 110 ("ยง 110") in the original https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/17._mai-grunnloven and is meant to slow down any change to our Constitution to glacial speeds, by establishing and enforcing rules on making legislators pass any change tru 3 consecutive elections, unchanged across these 3 elections: https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunnlovsendringer ..such glacially speedy change require and promotes wise changes, and allows democracy getting started quickly with imperfect constitutions like the anti-semitic one we had from 1814 to 1851. ..optional factcheck googlator: https://translate.google.com/ ;o) ..again, we are in no hurry. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng