On Wed, 20 Jul 2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:25:39 +0200, Klaus wrote in message > <33d1c1ed-16ae-e76a-9086-e770b0d99...@arcor.de>: > > > > > Michael Prokop schrieb am 19.07.2016 um 23:22: > > > * Klaus Fuerstberger [Mon Jul 18, 2016 at 09:41:01AM +0200]: > > > > > >> as I could not post a blog comment at > > >> http://blog.grml.org/archives/394-Is-Grml-still-alive.html I want > > >> to leave a comment to this article here. > > > > > >> Many thanks for grml all over the years. Please keep on providing > > >> new releases without systemd packages. There is no need for this > > >> bloated piece of software for a text based distribution for system > > >> admins. Maybe you can base grml on devuan, a systemd-free, > > >> debian-based distribution in the future? https://devuan.org/ I am > > >> sure that you will get help there if there are any questions. > > > > > > JFTR, we definitely plan to ship Grml *with* systemd, because that > > > is the way to go for us and also gives people remastering Grml even > > > more flexibility WRT service startups, independent from our default > > > configuration. > > > > You made Grml for people to be flexible in remastering it? I think > > Grml was, and is complete as it is. If I want to add a daemon at > > startup I need no systemd to successful remastering Grml. But of > > course it is your decision. > > > > > If you're interested in a Grml flavor *without* systemd you're > > > invited to work on that, you might be also interested in picking up > > > file-rc as upstream respectively package maintainer (file-rc being > > > the init system we relied on so far and where no maintainer seems to > > > be present anymore, esp. once both Alex and me will orphan it). > > > > Thanks for the invitation to maintain Grml with sysvinit. But I will > > not have the time to maintain such a big change alone. But as grml is > > also listed in > > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions > > I send a copy of this post to the devuan mailing list. Maybe there > > will be someone who is using Grml and interested to keep this systemd > > free. > > ..looks like Grml is a loss: http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue1568 > Pity. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alternatives+to+udev&ia=web > > ..systemd, udev etc pötterication has no more tech etc merit than e.g. > Erdogan's ban on Turk academics going on e.g. vacation abroad. > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. Please don't Cc our mailinglist again.
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