On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:08:10 +0900 Simon Walter <si...@gikaku.com> wrote:
> On 04/23/2016 04:20 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > > > On 04/22/2016 11:17 AM, KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > >> In my opinion there's no magic line where things on one side are > >> window > >> >managers and things on the other side are desktop environments. I > >> >think we can all agree that Unity, KDE and Gnome are desktop > >> >environments, and dwm and i3 are window managers, but what's > >> >Xfce? What's LXDE? What's Openbox? > >> > > >> >I think of de/wm as a spectrum, not a 1/0. > > > > I agree with you, there is not a borderline. > > It doesn't matter how much you agree on an opinion. That will not > make it fact. There is a technical difference between the two. Just > look up the definition of "window manager" and "desktop environment" > on any techsite/dictionary/encyclopedia. Unless you are trying to > sound ignorant, it would make sense to use the correct terminology. I've never been afraid of sounding ignorant, especially when I'm right. All the X environments I've ever seen have window managers to manipulate and add decorations to windows. Most X environments I've seen have programs added on to the basic window manager to work with it, configure it, and add features to it. So the question is: How much software is added to the software that manages and decorates windows? And that answer varies across a spectrum, according to the wm/de/whatever you're discussing. By the way, anyone wanting to take "sounding ignorant" to the next level should argue that LXDE is as much of a Desktop Environment as Gnome, or that LXDE as much of a Window Manager as dwm. One more thing: I think this whole wm/de thing is a useless distinction that never should have been made. Oh, and I claim authorship of the thing that Aitor agreed with: It was me who said that, not KatolaZ. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng