On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:02:28 +0100 aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote:
> Hi all, > > Did you watch the following video? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfKGXQnxIvE&list=PLV5TRjrpiwATav0Dlhd_GRjc2ZRuV26kR > > A conference by a system administrator interrupted by Lennart > Poettering (at the end of that). Aitor, this video is a classic in the world of the systemd-resistance. Over on GoLUG IRC, one of my systemd-hating buddies and I greet each other with "Do you hate disabled people?". The presenter, who has a much less firm grasp on English than Poettering, nevertheless at 24:50 the presenter makes Poettering look incredibly stupid with the line "Do you know what shellscripts are?" Over a year ago, on my systemd debating page, I wrote a section on debating Poettering himself, and that section refers heavily to the video you mention: http://troubleshooters.com/linux/systemd/debating.htm#debating_poettering This video is a must for any sans-systemd people who admit they don't use systemd, because they will surely be attacked for it. Watching this video is like watching videos of the opposing team the week before you play them: You know what they're going to hit you with. Poettering's technique is the moot technology alligator death roll, alternating with the ad-hominem attack. When I say "moot technology alligator death roll", what I mean is that just like the alligator tries to make the fight happen underwater where he has the complete advantage, Poettering tries to make the fight happen in the bowels of systemd where he has the complete advantage. He'll tell you why outcome A can be achieved by systemd, and then explains exactly how it's done in systemd. If you follow him down that path, you're dead: He's systemd's author: You just know Linux. He'll drown you in a sea of details from which you'll never escape. So instead, you point out a trivially simple alternative way. You've escaped his moot technology alligator death roll, so now he hits both you and your simple alternative with an ad-hominem. There's a beautiful example of this in the video. At 24:52 the presenter escapes Poettering's moot technology alligator death roll (gluing locale, networking, and other stuff to the display manager) with the words "Do you know what shellscripts are?" Not only did he escape the death roll, but Poettering was on the canvas for ten seconds, before he managed a weak ad-hominem ("well I mean come on, it's a discussion he kind of likes it don't you?") I recommend everyone who is serious about running sans-systemd view this video, several times. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
