On Thu, 4 Feb 2016, Simon Hobson wrote:

> Yes, in an ideal world where everyone is a "full time admin". But in the 
> real world, more systems are used by "average users" who just expect 
> "stuff to work". So IMO, you either build stuff that works (or at least 
> is up-front about what's wrong), or you leave these people stuck with 
> "stuff that's broken" and regardless of how right you are, the pi**ed 
> off user will be moaning about how "rubbish and complicated this Linux 
> is - best go back to Windows".

I think this is the road that led to systemd -- if you think Linux needs 
to be "as easy as Windows" you tend to take away all the aspects that made 
it superior (in my view).

Most of the people in the Linux community who shout so loud focus on this 
kind of target, so devuan better should focus on the people who want less 
automagic and more control.

Besides that I don't think mounting EFI-vars r/w is a good idea as a 
system default and I don't think the user not having read all the 
relevant documentation (spread out over various places) is to blame when 
system behaviour *changes* in such a drastic way (bricking hardware by 
deleting "files"). 
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