On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 09:30:04AM -0500, Patrice Remy wrote: > After the reboot (half way through the instructions), those with a > Wifi network card won't be able to continue (install xfce4, and so > on...) because they won't be in x-windows anymore, and the > network-manager app needs x-windows to work, ergo, no internet > connection :(
Which netowrk manager? The new one written for us, or the old one? If the new one, maybe it's time for curses front end as well as a GTK one? -- hendrik > > On 2015-11-03 20:51, dev1fanboy wrote: > > Quick start guide to uprading to Devuan and configuring minimalism. > > > > There are a lot of people talking about minimalism in Devuan and some > > may be wondering if they can upgrade to Devuan. The answer is yes, you > > can upgrade to Devuan right now and expect it to work with few if any > > problems in the stable branch - which is not yet announced stable but > > is clearly a lot better than alpha quality as you might have heard > > mentioned on devuan.org. I am currently putting in a little research > > before writing a more full guide to upgrading, installing and getting > > more minimalism out of Devuan. Hopefully I will be starting a wiki for > > all this info and more to go into in the near future, but for now I > > want to just put it out there for people trying to upgrade their > > current system or get more minimalism in their system. > > > > Let's get started. > > > > > > 1) Upgrading Debian to Devuan Stable (aka Jessie 1.0) > > > > You can upgrade to Devuan Jessie 1.0 from either Debian Wheezy or from > > Debian Jessie. For other branches you are on your own for now, and I > > suggest avoiding upgrades to Devuan testing (ascii) for now until after > > the official stable release. > > > > First simply open a terminal and type: > > > > user@debian:~$ sudo -s > > > > Enter your user password. > > > > Or if sudo is not available: > > > > user@debian:~$ su > > > > Enter your root password. > > > > Now we can continue with the upgrade. You need to edit the sources.list > > configuration file so that apt will be getting packages only from the > > devuan mirror (there is just one for now): > > > > root@debian:~# nano /etc/apt/sources.list > > > > Comment out ALL current lines in your sources.list and add the Devuan > > mirror with the Jessie (stable) branch. This is roughly how it should > > look: > > > > #deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/merged jessie main > > > > Now we need to get the devuan keyring from the repoistory so we can > > authenticate packages: > > > > root@debian:~# apt-get update > > root@debian:~# apt-get install devuan-keyring > > > > Many people coming over to Devuan will be hoping to escape the web of > > systemd in the process - if this is your choice you need to specify > > your init system now before you proceed. I will be using sysvinit in > > this example as it is what I have tested - systemd init will be removed > > if present: > > > > root@debian:~# apt-get install sysvinit-core > > > > The base-files package will be installed automatically in the case of > > an upgrade from Debian Wheezy, but it has been reported that this > > package will need to be selected manually when upgrading from Jessie. > > Either way we can do this now: > > > > root@debian:~# apt-get install base-files > > > > Start the system upgrade with: > > > > root@debian:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > > > > Depending on your connection speed it could take a while, grab yourself > > a drink. > > > > Once finished you will be using Devuan GNU/Linux 1. > > > > Do some optional cleaning up: > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get autoremove --purge > > root@devuan:~# apt-get autoclean > > > > The first command will remove any 'orphaned' dependencies from your > > previous install including unwanted configurations for those packages. > > I highly recommend this because it's good security practice. The second > > command clears up all cached packages except for those that are > > installed on the running system, reclaiming a little disk space. > > > > Now you should simply reboot so that you are using the kernel shipped > > with Devuan: > > > > root@devuan:~# reboot > > > > If in the upgrade process gnome was removed do not panic, the reason > > for this is it depends on systemd and you have opted for sysvinit. The > > default desktop environment in Devuan is XFCE: > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get install xfce4 > > > > Check that you can start your desktop environment: > > > > root@devuan:~# su - username > > user@devuan:~$ startxfce4 > > > > If it all works you can add a display manager safely for when you next > > reboot: > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get install slim > > > > > > 2) Configure minimalism in the system > > > > Thanks to a tip given to me by a fellow minimalist from #debianfork > > (unnamed for now until I talk to them) you will be able to debloat your > > system in a very neat way. This is completely optional and may be done > > either before or after the upgrade. We are going to configure apt to > > ignore all 'recommended' packages in Debian/Devuan as the majority of > > these often will not make sense to be there. There are some exceptions > > where recommends should definitely be installed and we will take care > > of this as well. > > > > First use an editor to make the necessary changes: > > > > root@devuan:~# nano /etc/apt.conf.d/01lean > > > > Add the following lines: > > > > APT::Install-Suggests "0"; > > APT::Install-Recommends "0"; > > APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false"; > > APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "false"; > > > > Press the Ctrl and X keys together to save and quit. > > > > Now we are going to retroactively remove all recommended packages, > > along with any suggests you may have pulled in. Adjust the above > > accordingly to your needs if you still want either suggests or > > recommends. Before proceeding we will protect the ca-certificates > > package from getting removed along with isc-dhcp-common if it is > > installed. The ca-certificates package contains ssl certificates from > > certificate authorities and naturally you will want this for any system > > where you will be using a browser (if you don't know then you need it). > > The isc-dhcp-common package takes care of automatic network > > configuration via dhcp on boot (see man 5 interfaces), if you don't > > know what this means then you need this package too. > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get install ca-certificates isc-dhcp-common > > > > This will manually select these packages and they will now not be > > removed. If you are asked to configure the ca-certificates package by a > > dialog screen you should answer to always trust new certificates > > authorities to avoid having to manually select them. > > > > Now all that needs to be done is remove the packages we have opted out > > of: > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get autoremove --purge > > > > The now 'orphaned' recommends and suggests will be retroactively > > removed, cutting away some fat. Unused configuration files for those > > packages will also be removed. Check the list of packages to be removed > > before proceeding and make notes of packages you are sure you want to > > keep so you can install them later (man apt-get for details). > > > > Some optional cleaning up: > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get autoclean > > > > Unwanted archives will be removed from the package cache, if any. > > > > > > 3) What about removing dbus? > > > > Sadly XFCE depends on dbus and so do many other packages, there will be > > several solutions to removing dbus but you may have to compromise a > > bit. > > > > A quick list of window managers that do not depend on dbus with > > suggestions from a couple of #debianfork regs: > > > > fluxbox > > blackbox > > openbox > > fvwm > > fvwm-crystal > > icewm > > > > For a graphical browser I suggest iceweasel, you might also like: > > > > epiphany > > links2 > > dillo > > > > For example: > > > > root@devuan:~# apt-get install fluxbox bbkeys menu iceweasel > > root@devuan:~# apt-get purge dbus > > > > Check the list of packages to be purged carefully before proceeding to > > ensure you really want to do this. > > > > Login to your user account, set your WM in the xinit file and start the > > X server: > > > > root@devuan:~# su - user > > user@devuan:~$ echo "exec fluxbox" > .xinitrc > > user@devuan:~$ startx > > > > You can now login by the console each time at boot and type startx. > > Information on display managers will come later, for now you should do > > some research if you need this. > > > > In the process of removing dbus you might have noticed the gvfs package > > being removed which is used for USB automounting, this is expected as > > it depends on dbus. A simple alternative to USB auto-mounting is to put > > your user in the disk group and set the possible mount points in fstab. > > You will then be able to mount your USB disks with ease. Further > > information may appear here after a little research on the topic of > > auto-mounting and graphical file managers. > > > > root@devuan:~# adduser yourusername disk > > root@devuan:~# cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.backup > > root@devuan:~# nano /etc/fstab > > > > At the bottom of the fstab simply add the following: > > > > /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto user,noauto 0 0 > > /dev/sdc1 /media/usb1 auto user,noauto 0 0 > > > > An important thing here is that 'user' mode is set as it allows your > > user to mount the disk where usually only root can do that. The > > 'noauto' option specifies the filesystem will not be mounted at boot. > > See man 5 fstab and man mount for more details. > > > > This is based on a single hard disk system. Your mount points may be > > different, if so you will need to adapt this if /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdc1 > > are already in use in the fstab. If everything is correct hit Ctrl and > > X together to save and exit. > > > > Now create the mountpoints: > > > > root@devuan:~# mkdir /media/usb0 > > root@devuan:~# mkdir /media/usb1 > > > > You should now plug in your usb drive(s) and test that it works: > > > > user@devuan:~$ mount /media/usb0 > > user@devuan:~$ mount /media/usb1 > > > > When done unmount: > > > > user@devuan:~$ umount /media/usb0 > > user@devuan:~$ umount /media/usb1 > > > > > > -- > > > > > > There you have it, a retro style Devuan install that wouldn't be out of > > place before systemd, dbus and other madness became the trend for > > GNU/Linux. > > > > As you might have noticed It's a very smooth upgrade to Devuan in the > > here and now, not much different if you simply upgraded your Debian > > system. With a little more work you can get a reasonably minimal system > > as well and remove dbus if you want to. > > > > > > Enjoy Devuan! > > > > ~~ > > > > dev1fanboy > > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
