Hi Frits I've been using live-build for a few years now myself and am intending to add devuan to my list of debian wheezy/jessie images.
I'm interested to know what you changed in the live-build scripts? Was it to fix bugs, improvements, ...? Nice work btw! Cheers Ozi On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Godefridus Daalmans <fr...@daalmansdata.eu> wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to clarify some things about the live DVD that I made: > > - arch is amd64, userid user password live. It works inside virtualbox, > not tested on bare iron. Do sudo bash to work as root. > > - It was an experiment by me to learn live-build and see how far I could > get with it on Devuan while avoiding systemd > > - It's not really a server installation, because that doesn't match with a > live DVD. Maybe that's why it was so easy to stay away from libsystemd0 > (thanks Devuan!!) > > - It has udev and libudev1 (Devuan Jessie, couldn't purge systemd > completely) > > - It is not an "official" Devuan selection of packages; it's a bloated DVD > full of 2.4 Gb of unrelated stuff. I call it "Vannsätter Linux". > > - Nothing from non-free, so it's missing firmware-linux-nonfree, rar, > p7zip, and various microcodes, as well as mondo/mindi/afio :-( > > - No wifi programs 'cause I don't have a laptop (suggestions??) > > - I just put on it stuff that I selected for the following four completely > different purposes: > > (1) generic live DVD, like the old Knoppix, for people from my village to > experiment with when they crash their MS Windows computers. The locale is > set to sv_SE.UTF-8, good to practise your Swedish. I couldn't figure out > how to change it while it's running. > So you can enter your credit card details if you want to begin on-line > shopping. I'm not a security expert, so I thought iceweasel (=firefox) and > HTTPS are good enough. > It has childsplay and stellarium. > > (2) basic system admin rescue tools. I've only sporadically worked in a > system admin rôle, so it probably doesn't have the exact tools that you > expect :-) > It's especially lacking backup tools such as mondo/mindi/afio. > > (3) programs that I like such as canfield and singularity :-) > > > (4) a large collection of development tools, scripts and programs, and a > short tutorial I wrote about the GNU hello and Debian hello package. > > Let me try to explain (4) > > We all need to begin somewhere. > > Not all of us are experienced enough in the areas we need to learn to make > Devuan thrive. > > A large task like "make an improved Devuan fork of a Debian package" or > "make a better udev" or "split dbus in three" is best done in little steps, > on a "safe" computer system like a live DVD inside virtualbox, so you don't > thrash your own computer. > > I thought that this live DVD would help budding enthusiasts and people > like me to learn how to assist the Devuan team in their work. > > Once you've re-built the Debian hello package yourself, you feel a bit > more confident that the goals of Devuan are actually attainable and within > human reach :-) > > I cannot begin to say how impressed I am with Debian and Devuan, if you > look "under the hood", like you can with this live DVD (it contains the > debian-policy documentation, for instance). > It gives one the feeling that people much cleverer than you have designed > this (kinda opposite to systemd). > > I made this DVD to help people like me to begin somewhere. Feedback is > welcome. > > Now if you like I can upload it somewhere tonight (slow connection here in > the sticks). Any legal tips on how to do proper attribution to Devuan, > Marillat and Debian? Should I make a source DVD for it as well? Maybe I > should try a jigdo if that's possible. > > Please reply to this long e-mail with a short description about what kind > of packages *you* had *expected* to find on a live DVD. There's 2 Gb left > :-) > > Frits D. > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >
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