Miles,

Remember that devuan is still at Aplha2.
Perhaps Beta 1 will be free of systemd, but until then, aptitude is your friend!
DaveT

On 08/08/15 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Riccardo Boninsegna wrote:
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Dave Turner
<dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
various XFCE irritations for normal people made me do a full debian jessie install with systemd and all. I soooo wish I hadn't!
XFCE doesn't work at all.
Devuan Testing installs systemd by default, but it's easy to remove
without breaking anything,
and after installing pm-utils XFCE works perfectly on my computer!

Wait, what????

I thought a primary motivation for Devuan was to NOT install systemd by default.
Miles Fidelman



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