Alexey Rochev <equ...@gmail.com> writes: > Currently Debian packages contains both systemd units and init scripts. > However, Debian developers refused to support several init systems. So it's > only a matter of time when they remove init scripts from packages.
This would rid the world of a lot of code of very dubious usefulness most of which should never have been written. One of the justifications for systemd is actually that they idea (orchestrate/ implement system startup based on the filesystem and with code written in the Bourne shell language) must be bad because "Can't you see that a horrendous mess they made of it?!" (only partially based on the visual effect of seeing a lot of complicated looking code in a language one happens to be almost totally unfamiliar with and all written by different people, ie, in different styles --- even a lot of people who consider themselves highly competent developers can't really cope with that). But a bare-bones init script does really only three things: 1. Execute a command to start something. 2. Execute a command which stops it again. 3. Execute 2) then 1) for a restart. Implementing this needs only marginally more text than this description and the world won't end anytime soon for want of a fifteen (estimate) line program. If anything else fails, I'd be willing to write it for you. Pet peeve: As part of my present job, I've developed a set of relatively small command-line tools supposed to add more 'verbs' suitable for managing services to the shell language (the largest is about 1300 LOC but contains some features which really ought to become independent programs). After experiences with a (simple) process manageing init I wrote for an earlier embedded system, this was an intentional experiment in "let's try it with small, independent programs written in C while using the shell as control/ skeleton language for connecting them and see how far I can get with that" (I can always try it with a big, complicated program should this fail). After five years, the conclusion is that this worked out beautifully. But this is - of course - all code my employer claims copyright in, hence, it will ultimatively end up getting systemd (or bernsteined or ... insert whatever the name of your favorite init-with-process-manager-ipc-system-and-some-kitchen-sinks written in a "real" programming language happens to be). life is futile we're all gonna to die in the time between have a coffee _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
