On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:39:23PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > >On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:49:32AM +0300, Vlad wrote: > Multi-seat logins are very useful in situations where users do not > understand how to run X11 applications with different user > permissions. I guess so. > It is an easy mechanism that is familiar to users from > other systems coming over to Linux. Fine... > You don't have to have it installed on your copy, Intrinsically and absolutely important. I won't have'em in my copy! And if I get to teach newbies Grsec for Devuan, if Devuan gets fully-foss (in the terms of true freedom, such as SELinux, the spy-tool, certainly is not) or close enough to, as I hope (see the MirDevuan "WTF" thread too currently being contributed to), I will always recommend against multiseat too. > but having an option is not a bad thing. In controlled (I mean user controlled) cases, fine!
Because, prove me wrong. Often the surveillors most used tools, since otherwise they wouldn't be able to follow their targets, is exactly multiseats. They see, sitting in their bunkers, which public at large has mostly never any notion about, and thanks to stuff like dbus, multiseat, pulseaudio (pulsoaudio was designed by those tools of the one-Ring-cravers for eavesdropping!), and surely systemd goes to perfection in bulk collection and worse!... They see, sitting in their bunkers, their target's every move, every move! On their screen, replicated what the torget does. In real time! And most of them wouldn't be able to follow their targets without such aides, because they're not all experts, really. A little harder following their tagets without any poetterware. A disclaimer: fine, the spies following targets, fine! When we really talk terrorists and criminals, you should follow those, I approve of that! But for the love of God, not wholesale surveillance on the general population, please! Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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