On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:29 AM, KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 02:59:51AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: >> nano -> vim > I believe it's not time for changes in the defaults. The first thing I > do on fresh installs is to pull in vim and emacs, make one of them the > default editor and remove the bloody exim. But I understand that most > users are unconfortable with vim, and nano is a viable alternative.
Repeating since I accidentally replied privately to Micky: Aren't both "nano" and "vim-tiny" already installed by default, at least with the pseudo-task "Standard system utilities"? (If we need to vote on something, count me in for nano, but as I just said it's a non-issue) > In any case, the principle of minimum surprise should be a guiding rule of > thumb. > IMHO, a superificial Debian jessie user should not notice > the difference between Devuan and Debian, until she has to manually > start/stop a daemon from the terminal. Debian made `service *` automatically translate to `systemctl *` as appropriate :) > Then, since you are asking, I personally would prefer to have an as > small as possible fingerprint on the "basic" install Indeed. Debian is relatively big even without "Standard system utilities"; Arch isn't, but after installing relatively little, dependencies enlarge them quite a bit... > Having vim or an MTA already installed does not automagically give you > the sufficient knowledge to use them, BTW. Absolutely true -- I can set up exim4 to link to Gmail, but it took me relatively a lot of research and the cooperation of debconf! _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
