Op 10-04-15 om 19:14 schreef Anto: > Hello Paul, > > I understand your pain as I have been there. > > I managed to have everything working with Debian jessie without any > packages containing "*systemd*".
I don't think this is a good for systemd-shim. > I also used XFCE 4.10, lightdm and wicd > to manage the connection to my WiFi and LAN. For XFCE issue with suspend > and hibernate, It's also about shutdown. > I had it working by using xfce4-power-manager package > including some of its related packages and dependencies from > http://angband.pl/debian/dists/nosystemd/. > > However, a few weeks ago I downgraded my PC to Debian wheezy. I thought > it is safer to use it before switching to Devuan, instead of using the > packages from Debian jessie which a lot of them are dependent on > systemd. I think it is very likely that a lot of other packages will be > made dependent on systemd in the near future. So my PC is now using the > packages from Debian wheezy and wheezy-backports. It was quite a pain to > downgrade all necessary packages like downgrading glibc 2.19 to 2.13. Of > course I can only use XFCE 4.8 because of this. Downgrading is not easy with Debian. > About Synaptic, I only use it for easy searching for packages. But for > package installation and upgrade, I usually use apt-get as I thought it > is safer. I don't use Synaptic, but many of my customers do. For easy searching I use the webinterface. > In any case, I think administration type of packages like > Synaptic, GParted, etc., must only be executed with root privilege. So > they should be launched with gksu in desktop. For Synaptic for instance, > what I did was to copy /usr/share/applications/synaptic.desktop into > ~/.local/share/applications, and then edit it to change > "Exec=synaptic-pkexec" into "Exec=gksu synaptic". Ah, thanks. That's a good idea. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl/ _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng