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> From: David Harrison
> To:   dng@lists.dyne.org
> 

> Last week I volunteered (was volunteered?) to contact the Xfce team and 
> ask them whether systemd loomed on their horizon. Here is the report 
> that was promised.
> 

David, you are awesome! =) Thanks so much for taking the time to do this!


> After a long chat with a couple of developers on the #xfce channel, it 
> seems they have no plans to introduce hard systemd dependencies. A 
> welcome change from certain DEs that are queueing up to staple logind to 
> their own foreheads?

I really don't see any reason why any Unix DE should lock itself to one Unix 
style OS - even Linux.  Although to be perfectly honest, I have no objections 
to optional soft dependencies to assist those who do use systemd.  

Leave people the saner choice for their personal need is all I ever ask. 
 
> They also recommended Consolekit2 as a compatible candidate login 
> system, and said that Xfce plays well with OpenRC and SysVinit. 
> Consolekit2 is a fork maintained independently of Xfce by one of their 
> team. Please make of that what you wish as I don't know the ins and outs 
> of these components.

Basically, they are saying that they are using a different kit for 
suspend/hibernate rather than depending on systemd.

> 
> They confirmed that Xfce 4.12 will be released this weekend and 
> recommended packaging it. The Whisker menu is now an Xfce project and is 
> now at v1.50.

That's great news!  I've been waiting for a new release for some time.  I just 
hope that they updated DE to vsync with OpenGL instead of Xrandr.



> Just passing on the news -- don't bite if I've misreported anything
> 
> All the best,
> 
No worries.  Thanks!

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