On 12/21/2014 04:24 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > if I will need to defend myself from this, I will do it in legal ways > obviously, and I will not involve this project. therefore once again > please do not reply to trolls and if you write independently about > this and other systemd related episodes please do not make any > personal threats or insults of any kind. >
I have to admit: I've been following the list and Ruben's posts and I think by in large he makes good points. Particularly when it comes to donations. I think he's expressing concerns that have caused others to quietly dismiss the project and do more productive things while people on this list continue to go on about what amounts to nothing so far. It is fine to have a loosely organized and headless organization where we chat about how much we hate systemd, speculate about naming conventions, etc. It is another to ask for donations to an effort with nebulous leadership and goals. I like the initial Debian announcement as an example of how to start a project: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.development/Md3Modzg5TU/xty88y5OLaMJ It states "Here I am and this is what I've done. Jump on board if you like." I'm not saying this is a scam but I can't quite say it isn't as there is no way to judge who's doing what from the website. I think Devuan should have held off opening a public mailing list until there was an initial release to serve as a starting point for development, demonstrate who's doing what, and to establish legitimacy. -ayan _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng