On October 24, 2023 3:38:54 PM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superu...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 9:07 PM Scott Kitterman <skl...@kitterman.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I don't think this is consistent with the IETF's mandate to provide
>> documents
>> which promote interoperability.  I do not, however, plan to file an appeal
>> about it.
>>
>
>Two things to say about that:
>
>(1) This is Francesca's determination of the consensus of this WG.  It is
>not a determination of the consensus of the IETF or anyone else at this
>point, nor has any determination been made about that position as viable
>IETF output (which, I would argue, is for the IESG to decide).
>
>(2) For an appeal to be sustained, you'd need to present evidence that her
>evaluation of WG consensus is in error.  The question here is not whether
>WG consensus aligns with the IETF's mandate.

My understanding of IETF consensus is that technical objections have been 
addressed.  I think this is critical to the difference between IETF consensus 
and voting.  It's not just 'most people think X'.  I don't think that the 
technical objections have been addressed.

That said, I understand why we're where we are.

Scott K

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