We’re working on canceling the meeting. Tim
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 22, 2021, at 16:59, Dotzero <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So I'm assuming there won't be anything to talk about at the next IETF > meeting. > > Michael Hammer > >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:59 PM Seth Blank >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 27 October 2020, in post >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/qtCDyGbeDHz96G8FaCxJvhJKrvo/ the >> chairs announced a split of RFC7489 into three documents, to be scoped as >> follows: >> >> The DMARC Base Spec (editors - Emil Gustafsson, Todd Herr, and John Levine) >> Aggregate Reporting (editor - Alex Brotman) >> Forensic Reporting (editors - Steve Jones and Alessandro Vesely) >> >> The chairs are of the opinion that discussion of topics related to the DMARC >> bis documents on the mailing list has reached a point where it would be >> unreasonable to expect any timely progress toward completion of the >> refinement of the DMARC bis at this point. >> >> Our charter (https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dmarc/about/) is clear on what >> this working group’s priority should be when reviewing and improving the >> DMARC specification: “Issues based on operational experience and/or data >> aggregated from multiple sources will be given priority.” >> >> We are spending too much time on items that are at best incidental to DMARC, >> and rarely are informed by operational practice or data from multiple >> sources. Efforts by the chairs to weigh in and declare discussions >> unproductive work for that particular thread, but the involved parties just >> move on to another thread, and consensus remains well over the horizon. >> >> We have therefore decided that the best approach to achieve progress for the >> DMARC bis documents is to form a design team, per RFC 2418, Section 6.5. The >> team will be composed of the editors, focused on their designated documents, >> as defined above. The team will be charged with working through all existing >> tickets and producing an updated version of each DMARC bis document to >> present to the working group, at which point discussion would resume on-list >> with respect to the updated documents. >> >> The design team will operate as follows: >> >> A moratorium is hereby imposed on creating tickets for this working group, >> effective at 5pm PT, Friday, February 26th. >> The design team will have until 5pm PT, Friday, April 23rd, to work through >> all applicable tickets, and come to agreement on each to either modify DMARC >> bis documents (and make such modification) or reject the ticket, with the >> reason for rejection added to the ticket's comments. No tickets will be >> closed during this process, everything will be transparent for working group >> review after the design period. >> Changes made to the DMARC bis documents will be tracked in the following >> manner: >> By comments added to the ticket driving the change >> By comments in the markdown (.md) and/or XML version of the documents >> Through an Appendix section added temporarily to the documents, so that >> changes can be easily summarized for the next step in the process. >> All changes throughout the process will be publicly visible within GitHub >> (https://github.com/ietf-wg-dmarc). >> At the end of the time period, in roughly sixty days (or earlier if their >> work is finished before then), the design team will deliver updated versions >> of the DMARC bis documents to the working group, and the working group will >> have a chance to review that version and make comments/recommending edits, >> etc., using https://trac.ietf.org/trac/dmarc/report/1 to create tickets as >> needed. Initial discussion will be limited to what’s in the documents. >> The design team will consult with each other and the chairs during their >> work as needed. >> >> The chairs spent a great deal of time discussing this, and we don’t take >> this action lightly or without hesitation, but in the end we feel it’s the >> best way to not only make progress on the working group's efforts, but also >> to allow for working group participants to reset and perhaps gain a fresh >> perspective on this important work. >> >> After the updated documents have been presented to the working group, we >> will hold an interim to discuss them and hear all feedback. >> >> Seth, Tim, and Alexey, as Co-Chairs >> >> -- >> Seth Blank | VP, Standards and New Technologies >> e: [email protected] >> p: 415.273.8818 >> >> ` >> This email and all data transmitted with it contains confidential and/or >> proprietary information intended solely for the use of individual(s) >> authorized to receive it. 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