----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Levine" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 2:57:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] ... and two more tiny nits, while I'm at it
> 
> >HELO results are unrelated to DMARC.
> 
> Is that still true when the bounce address is empty?  It's fairly common
> to have an NDR with an empty bounce address and
> 
>  From: [email protected]
> 
> Assuming it's not DKIM signed (most NDRs aren't) what's a DMARC user
> supposed to do?
> 

The same as a non DMARC user should do...

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