On 12 Mar 2010, at 15:32 , MauroCam wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> just discovered that JetBrains has recently recently a new IDE for
> Python which specifically supports Django.
> 
> Having tried to use Eclipse for the past year, I can honestly say that
> I am desperate to find something new.
> 
> Loads of people would trust their lives in Eclipse, but I just find it
> too awkward to use with all the various plugins that you need to
> install. But I don't want to start a debate on Eclipse (please!).
> 
> So, anyone have any experience with PyCharm?

I used to use IJ for Java development (and I always found it much, much better 
than Eclipse), so I'm giving a shot at PyCharm from time to time, though not on 
a Django project.

In my opinion — PyCharm isn't usable yet (then again, if it were it'd be 
released already), but the team is reponsive to bug reports and the IDE 
improves leaps and bounds with each EAP release.

Refactorings are not yet at parity with Rope (which I use in Ropemacs) by a 
long shot and there are quite a few bugs in the intentions (IJ's suggestions) 
and inspections (warnings & errors IJ displays when it doesn't like your code), 
but as I said above things are improving fast. Plus due to its history (WebIDE, 
RubyMine) IJ has quite damn good HTML and JS support, which is a plus if you're 
doing web-based stuff (as in, coding Django templates).

The only real downside is that it's a java IDE, thus even if it's (in my 
opinion) better than Eclipse, it still tends to be dog slow. Other than that, 
don't hesitate giving it a shot from time to time, it's worth it.

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