On Thu Dec 3 8:42 , Todd Blanchard <tblanch...@mac.com> sent:
> >I've read the little poem. I disagree with about half of it. If you can't >take constructive criticism of your toolkit (I have plenty negative to say about rails and any of the other dozen web app development environments I know too) then you should maybe put down the kool-aid and walk away. No environment is perfect. > You are welcomed to disagree with it, all of us hackers view things differently. That said, understanding what Tim is saying will help you understand Python and the people who use it. Most of us agree with most of Tim's points. I believe this was mentioned not to tell you to walk away, but that you should learn to use the tools as intended instead of forcing a screw driver to be a chisel. Maybe the standard Rails URLs make sense to you. But I suspect many if not most of the Django projects actually do not have URLs that directly bind to their internals. Remember it grew up out of reporting where the URLS are dictacted by other people or even how stories are organized. There is a lot of flexibility in any URL can go anywhere you want. Here is the page on Amazon for Learning Python: http://www.amazon.com/Learning-Python-Animal-Guide-Mark/dp/0596158068/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259864161&sr=8-1 That does not map to model/view/blah directly. When amazon decides to use /books/Oreilly/Python/dp/0596158068 they can and only by adjusting urls.py and maybe their views indirection routine. Sure, mapping things directly to code and models is fast for initial development. But real websites do not exist to make the hackers happy. They exist to get ideas out to people who probably have no idea how a website is run, and yeah maybe make some money at the time. Simple urls like 'http://example.com/xmas/toys' do not come from convention. Now, you may point out that this would be a special holiday thing and easily to add. You'd be right, but the "use pretty URLS" concept is a driving force behind Django. Giving people simple URLs they can type in, see on a billboard, etc. are the main driving force, not some last minute requirement from Marketing. Ponder this, consider why Django does what it does. Look at where and who the focus is. You are free to disagree and do it some other way. But don't assume Django has somehow missed this or chosen not to because the developers just like to waste their time typing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
