No no no, I really really appreciate the help.

But I'm definitely beginning to feel like my app is 80% boilerplate.

On Nov 24, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Tim Valenta wrote:

> PS -- I hope I don't sound like I'm insulting your intelligence--- I'm
> not.  I've often felt like there aren't enough policies in Django,
> myself.  But pick your battles.  This is an easy one.  I prefer Django
> over Rails, when it comes down to it.  Feel fortunate that Django has
> practically the best documentation on the planet.  I hate more open
> source docs, because it was written by a guy who don't know how to use
> proper english!
> 
> I'm just trying to drive home the point that this isn't the worst
> thing that you could be stuck on.
> 
> Sincerely hoping it helps,
> Tim
> 
> On Nov 24, 4:28 pm, Tim Valenta <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sorry it's not working out for you, but I'd disagree about the
>> comparison to X-Windows :)  I'd be defending Django, and not X-
>> windows, when I say that.
>> 
>> I'm serious.  Just add them together.  I'm not sure you're
>> appreciating the slick objects that have been crafted for this very
>> purpose.
>> 
>> Your view:
>>     cumulative_media = form.media for form in forms
>>     return render_to_response('mytemplate.html', {'media':
>> cumulative_media})
>> 
>> Your template:
>>     {% block my_media_block %}
>>         {{ block.super }}
>>         {{ media }}
>>     {% endblock %}
>> 
>> I fail to see what is so hard about this.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> On Nov 24, 4:13 pm, Todd Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> You know what, this is absolutely too much BS.  Why would one bother to use 
>>> the media declaration stuff at all if there is no mechanism to properly 
>>> consume it (a built in template tag for instance).
>> 
>>> I think I will just hardcode them in the head in the base template.  They 
>>> seldom change and browser caching being what it is having them never change 
>>> is just fine.
>> 
>>> After three weeks of seriously trying to get traction with django, my 
>>> conclusion is it has all of the elegance of X-windows.  It can do anything 
>>> but out of the box it does nothing except present a zillion confusing parts 
>>> to the programmer and it has too many mechanisms but no policies.
>> 
>>> I'm beginning to very much pine for rails.  At least it does something out 
>>> of the box.
>> 
>>> Very frustrated today - still haven't got a single record/entry form 
>>> working.  Too many little files and indirection to keep it all straight in 
>>> my head.
>> 
>>> -Todd Blanchard
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Tim Valenta wrote:
>> 
>>>> The idea is along the lines of what you initially guessed.
>> 
>>>> The admin accomplishes the non-duplicate effect in django/django/
>>>> contrib/admin/options.py, starting at line 770.  It loops over the
>>>> forms and combines the existing media with the media on each form
>>>> object.  It ends up using a series of objects to do it, including a
>>>> Media class, but it's not doing anything too special.  When an item
>>>> gets added, it checks to make sure that the path doesn't already exist
>>>> in the list.
>> 
>>>> So, short story: loop over your forms and add the media attributes
>>>> together.  The underlying Media class ought to be dropping duplicates.
>> 
>>>> Then just save a context variable with the result, and do the
>>>> following in your template:
>> 
>>>> {% block extrahead %} {# or whatever you call your header block #}
>>>>    {{ block.super }}
>>>>    {{ cumulative_media }}
>>>> {% endblock %}
>> 
>>>> Tim
>> 
>>>> On Nov 24, 12:30 pm, Todd Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> What about de-duping?
>>>>> If two forms want the same js file, will it get included twice?
>>>>> It seems like this is the kind of thing that the framework should handle 
>>>>> and the current "solution" is kind of half baked.
>> 
>>>>> -Todd
>> 
>>>>> On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Mark (Nosrednakram) wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>> 
>>>>>> I have something like the following in my generic genericform.html.  I
>>>>>> think this is what you're looking for if not hope you find a better
>>>>>> answer. The extramedia block is back in my base.html  template and my
>>>>>> form template extends it. I'm not sure if it's in the admin base.html
>>>>>> but you can take a look at if for there media blocks I believe are
>>>>>> something like extrastyle etc...
>> 
>>>>>> {% block extramedia %}
>>>>>> {% if forms %}
>>>>>>    {% for form in forms %}
>>>>>>       {{ form.media }}
>>>>>>    {% endfor %}
>>>>>> {% else %}
>>>>>>   {{ form.media }}
>>>>>> {% endif %}
>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 23, 1:31 pm, Todd Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> I've read this:
>> 
>>>>>>> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/media/
>> 
>>>>>>> Nifty.  
>> 
>>>>>>> Now, how exactly do I make sure that the media urls get spewed properly 
>>>>>>> into the head section of the page?  This is apparently omitted 
>>>>>>> everywhere I've looked.  The admin template seems to pull it off 
>>>>>>> properly but I cannot figure out how.  Seems like I should be able to 
>>>>>>> do something like
>> 
>>>>>>> <html>
>>>>>>> <head>
>>>>>>> {{ media }}  
>>>>>>> </head>
>> 
>>>>>>> but I cannot figure out exactly how to properly aggregate all the 
>>>>>>> forms' media's and get them spewed into the templates properly.
>> 
>>>>>>> -Todd
>> 
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